Ubisoft's BIG Shakeup plus Google's LOCKING DOWN Android development
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Ubisoft's BIG Shakeup plus Google's LOCKING DOWN Android development

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Nintendo Direct 03/27/2025

Link: https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-direct-march-2025-everything-announced

Interesting move by Nintendo to unveil a Switch focused Nintendo Direct, especially when we’re supposed to get a Switch 2 Direct in a few days…7

Ubisoft makes a deal with Tencent…

Link: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ubisoft-carves-top-games-unit-164015707.html

Perhaps it was always the plan, even if AC Shadows was a financial success.

Major Publishers looking to delay games to avoid being beaten by GTA VI

Link: https://www.thegamebusiness.com/p/major-publishers-plan-to-delay-games

Announcing GTA VI’s release date will be cataclysmic for game releases as no one wants to release alongside GTA VI, as it’ll look especially bad.

Gamestop Closes Down More Stores (and invests in Bitcoin?)

Link: https://www.ign.com/articles/gamestop-plans-to-close-a-significant-number-of-stores-and-invest-into-bitcoin

The bitcoin plan was in unanimous agreement from the top level execs of this sinking ship.

RGG Studio justifies the reuse of assets in the “Like a Dragon” series

Link: https://www.ungeek.ph/2025/03/rgg-studio-directors-explain-their-approach-to-reusing-assets-in-like-a-dragon/

Perhaps it was always the plan, even if AC Shadows was a financial success.

Cristiano Ronaldo is now a fighting game character

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbeEWm4%5Fqeg

This was announced a while back but we couldn’t have possibly imagined Ronaldo being an actual playable character in the new Fatal Fury.

Game Informer returns with ALL Staff

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoVfBvxKdm0

Game Informer is BACK!

Japanese Gaming is Back on the Rise! 5/8 major companies reported record profits.

Link: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/japans-aaa-game-industry-performs-strongly-as-5-out-of-8-major-companies-hit-record-breaking-share-prices/

Japanese Gaming is back! Not that it ever left or anything but people seriously underestimate how important the Japanese are to gaming as a whole.

Hope for Silksong After All

Link: https://steamdb.info/app/1030300/history/?changeid=U:60144384

Silksong’s Legal Line was changed from “Copyright Team Cherry 2019” to “Copyright Team Cherry 2025”. Now I’m not saying Silksong’s coming out this year…. but I’m saying it’s coming out this year.

HP’s “Steam Deck”

Link: https://www.videogamer.com/news/hp-doesnt-want-windows-on-its-steam-deck-competitor-but-valves-simple-steamos/

HP does not want to make a Windows handheld, but would be far more interested in making one with SteamOS on it.

Google Makes Android Development Private, But Will the OS No Longer Be Open-Source?

Link: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/309791/20250327/google-makes-android-development-private-will-os-no-longer-open-source.htm

Join @Th3Brink @GardinerBryant as we discuss this week’s hottest gaming and tech news.

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Good morning, everybody. Welcome to

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another episode of Off the Console.

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My name is Gardiner and I'm here with my

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friend James, aka The Brink.

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How's it going, James?

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It is going good this morning.

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Usually it's a three-man crew here on the

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show, but Hi-Tech is off this week.

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Hi-Tech, we can't wait to

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see you next week, my friend.

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We're gonna be covering a bunch of stuff

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on this show. If you

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don't know Off the Console,

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this is our gaming and tech news and

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anything nerdy show,

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where we just kind of hang out and talk

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about the things that are interesting to

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us over the last week.

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This week, we've... yeah, do

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we have some interesting stuff?

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We've got... we're gonna talk about all

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the things that Nintendo mentioned in

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their Nintendo Direct this week.

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Maybe not all the things, but the stuff

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that's most interesting to us.

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We're gonna talk about how game def...

1:16

I have slowly converted my channel over

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to a Mac only channel. No, I I

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Am I'm working on on April

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Fool. I love April Fool's videos

1:26

I'm gonna do one of those and so but I've

1:29

also been obsessing over the Mac

1:30

for stupid reasons

1:31

because you know reason but I

1:35

I just want to simplify my life and so

1:36

I've been obsessing over that and also

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like smaller form factor

1:41

Um

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PCs just

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My room over heats with my 3090 and so I

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just want something that's

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not gonna overheat this room

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So I'm looking at like

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a my they say 40 90 m

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3090 whatever. Mm-hmm, but there's a 40 I

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I watched a video on the 40 90

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eGPU

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So it's like a mobile chip in it

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I'm curious how well that runs like our

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heat wise and so that

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I'm have my eye on that

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To then maybe build out

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I don't know build out my

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gaming system. I'm having fun. I

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still playing

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I'm not playing Astro bot right now

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But

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It takes two with my son still playing

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that we're slowly getting

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through that. That's really fun

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I played it on bad side and I have to

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switch over to back over to

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Windows to play it because it

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crashes at the same spot

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Mm-hmm, and I think it's I don't think

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it's bad as its fault per se. I think

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it's in videos graphics drivers

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Oh my god, don't get me started on any

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videos graphics drivers

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Yeah, I'm gonna have to

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switch back over to Windows

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Yeah, I think I'd have a better time

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emulating this game. Honestly, I actually

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would play fine if I if I had like

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my MacBook

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With a cross fire or something like that,

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but we can that's a whole other

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can of worms

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That's what I've been doing nice

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Nice, I've been doing doing a lot of

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work. I've been getting ready for a big

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project with my client

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But I also have been playing

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a

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Classic an absolute classic. I don't know

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if you know this about me James, but I

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really love racing games

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Which I find interesting because I don't

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really like cars, but I love racing games

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and I've been playing

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I'm need for speed 3 hot pursuit

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Which I have a big box version out in

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there out in my game

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shelf and

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Oh my god, it is so much

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fun. I'm playing through proton

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And and it is sick. Yeah, it's so good

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Didn't they remake it or is this

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something else? I'm

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thinking of I don't know

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Uh, maybe they did is this the older one

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like in that what wanted

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to come out? Oh my gosh

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2000s need for speed

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3 I'm thinking like 98

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Okay, it's that one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I

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never play that one a lot. Oh man. I

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played so much of it

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So much and and like and

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the music is so nostalgic

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the gameplay is

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It has an aged super great, but there's

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still like this like

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dedicated community around it

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And and I just enjoy it. It makes me it

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takes me right back to being a kid

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I'm gonna have to pick that back up

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because I played it a ton as a kid

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There's a there's a community patch that

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you can get through Lutris

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And it works really well and it makes

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everything you can like run the game in

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widescreen. I'm running it natively at 4k

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I'm gonna try it on my steam deck and

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probably I'll make a video about it, too

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It's a lot of fun. That is that is fun. I

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really like the need for speeds

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I like arcade racers a lot more than

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realistic ones. That's me, too

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Yeah, they

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Burnout the entire burnout franchise.

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Love it burnout paradise, but

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specifically is great

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It's so good and I'm so like I am shocked

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that as a franchise

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that did not continue on

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Yeah, tell me about it

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because they you know

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They didn't didn't it didn't do well

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enough and so didn't they put them on

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like a different project or

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something like that the devs

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I can't write here. I think so. Yeah.

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Yeah, I think that's what happened. But

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burnout series is amazing. It's I like it

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Weirdly enough. I like it a little more

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than need for speed

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because you have all the crash

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Physics and everything

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like that's really fun. Mm-hmm

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I think the newer need for speeds have

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that too for the most part,

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but it's not quite the same way

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Yeah, I honestly I think need for speed 3

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the one that I've been playing is the

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only need for speed game I've ever played

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Really? Yeah. Yeah, I really like I to be

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honest when I was growing up

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My cousin had like a really nice PC

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gaming setup his dad did and

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so I played whatever he had so

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Unreal tournament I

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played at his house. I played

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Duke Nukem command and conquer these kind

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of games over there need for speed 3 that

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was the only one I ever got access to

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but

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And then and then like I never was

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interested in the

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console stuff. So I don't know

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For example, like the other kind of

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racing games cart racers, obviously, you

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know, you got to have

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like Mario Kart in there

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You got to have crash

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team racing in there

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So those were the kind of games that I

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played like on my own time like when I

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wasn't visiting my cousin so

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Need for speed most wanted like I think

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it's kind of like a

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remake off of need for speed

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3 or just like the

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need for speed most wanted

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Yeah, that probably it's

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I think pretty fun. He had

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Cops in it if I remember correctly cuz I

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remember getting yes over when I was a

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kid and I think most wanted was was also

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like cop based

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Yes, yeah, yes

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Like some of them are really fun. Some of

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the need for speeds are just in

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Yeah, Oh also dude links is officially

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open source now source codes available

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Which I'm really happy about you can go

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get it. You can download it. There's a

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demo available of for doodlings

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You can download that

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as well. It's on steam

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But yeah, I

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James I don't know about you, but I'm

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interested in knowing what the audience

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has been playing this week

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With that out of the way,

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let's get into the first topic

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Nintendo Direct

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March 27th, Nintendo Direct

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So I know we were talking off the show

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about neither of us are

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super into a lot of these games

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But like did anything stick out to you?

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A

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Dragon Quest 1 & 2 HD remake maybe I do

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like Dragon Quest games

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I just haven't played him in a long time

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and yeah, I I don't tend to play those

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types of games as much these days

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Unless it's a it has

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to be like a really big

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Really like has to be a

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Premium release of like an RPG or

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something like that because I just don't

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have the time and I'd

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rather put my time into like

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Horror horror games and stuff like Silent

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Hill 2 remake. I just got it. I'm gonna

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be playing that soon. I

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Like a little bit shorter games or very

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specific types of games

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And so even though I

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like all sorts of games

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I have to limit my my list down and

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that's the only

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problem with Nintendo Direct

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Is that a lot of these games are just not

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games. I'm as interested in

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Albeit, I'd love to play some of them. I

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just don't have the time. But yeah,

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that's definitely one

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that popped out to me

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Yeah, I like how this looks.

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Yeah, it looks kind of cool

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It the the name of it the the actual full

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name is Dragon Quest

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1 plus 2 HD 2d remake

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Is that right? Am I reading that

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correctly? I think

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which I think is hilarious

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But it's it's kind of got some cool

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It's got a nice aesthetic like the

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sprites are 2d and it's almost like Paper

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Mario sprites in a 3d world, right?

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which I think

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Looks pretty neat. I haven't I don't

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think I've ever played a

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Dragon Quest game, honestly

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But I do think this looks pretty cool

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I'm gonna I'm gonna scroll past a lot of

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these titles here and

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I know that people are gonna

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shout at me in the comments

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But like the only the only ones that

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really stuck out to me

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pat upon one and two replay

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Do you know why this is

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super freaking interesting?

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James, I don't know

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This is a Sony game

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This is Sony

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So Sony's going around a Microsoft

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everything's a PlayStation

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Yeah, I guess I mean the thing is like I

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believe they partnered with Namco Bandai

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on this and they they licensed

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Pat upon which was a PSP exclusive

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and

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Yeah, yeah, and they licensed this here

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and now it's coming to switch

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which hey, that's kind of neat

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I I play I would buy this on PC Pat upon

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was a super fun rhythm game

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that I played all the time on my

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My PlayStation my PSP

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This bad boy right here. In fact, I love

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I love the PSP play all the time

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And I think that's pretty cool so

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Maybe maybe Sony's trying to like get in

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there and because honestly the like the

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switch is not really a

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competitor to the PlayStation

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right like they're

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Most people who have Playstations have

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switches. I would imagine anyway, I

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Buy stuff like for me. I buy stuff based

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on what games they have

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So now PlayStation I have all the

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playstations for the most part because

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they have series that I really like

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Same thing with Nintendo devices. Yep

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Yeah, and if I if I get a switch I'm

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gonna get mine second-hand

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because then I'm not gonna be

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supporting Nintendo

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But yeah, I don't know. I I think this is

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pretty neat. The other thing is

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Metroid Prime 4 Beyond

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I'm a huge Metroid fan

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I've been playing Metroid games for as

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long as I can remember in fact and

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Metroid Prime 4 Beyond looks pretty neat

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and

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I'm not really a story guy when it comes

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to video games. I don't

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really care that much about story

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but

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It but Metroid games

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I actually really kind of enjoyed the

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simple story that goes on in the you know

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on the side when you're playing

12:35

But one thing at the end of this trailer,

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which I don't think is gonna play for me

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because IGN videos never play

12:40

At the very end of the trailer

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There's like an alien speaking

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In an alien language and he refers to

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Samus as the chosen one

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And it's like can we not do that?

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Like how many how many sci-fi games have

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to have a chosen one or sci-fi

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franchises, you know, I

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Think pretty much say how many games do

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we have that have a chosen

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one? Yeah, that's a pretty big

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one for fantasy

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Yeah, I don't know. Yeah

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What do you what do you think the story's

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been going on for so long that yeah,

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unfortunately you have to

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hand it off to additional

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Writers and and yeah, it

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always runs the risk of

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Really going a different direction than

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maybe what the original writers wanted

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I don't know if the original writers are

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still on it, but I'm assuming not I don't

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believe so and it's evolved so much over

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how long is I

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Mean is this like a 30 plus year

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franchise? I believe the

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first Metroid came out in 88

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So

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We're coming up to what 40 40. We're

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heading towards

13:53

heading towards it 86 my dude

13:56

It's almost 40 years old.

13:57

It is the same age as me

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Wow

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Yeah, I I was born in 88

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So I ain't much

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younger than you. Yeah and

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Wowsers, I'll tell you what I like I

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said, I've been playing Metroid for as

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long as I can remember like

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Super Metroid specifically was my first I

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Played it, but I

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played it for the gameplay

14:23

I don't remember that any story whenever

14:26

it was very little the story in Metroid a

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super Metroid was super atmospheric like

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Like the I don't know if

14:33

you remember like the intro

14:37

Like before you even start the game

14:39

Like it's like this mode 7 like it's

14:42

zooming in and stuff when I was a kid

14:44

I didn't know what

14:45

the hell it was going on

14:46

But like there are dead there's like dead

14:48

scientists on the ground right there like

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they're dead people laying on the ground

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And and then there's

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like a Metroid with a broken

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Containment

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That or something, you know, and it's

15:01

like you when I look at it now, I'm like,

15:04

whoa, dude. This atmosphere is like

15:07

Super dense and really great. The only

15:10

the only real story beats

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that I remember is when it's like

15:15

The last Metroid is

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in captivity the galaxy

15:19

That's right is at peace right and then

15:21

it has like text on the screen

15:23

was Sam is giving an intro log

15:24

And I believe there's a little bit of a

15:26

thing at the end too, and that's it

15:28

Everything else is done environmentally

15:30

and I love that though.

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That's the kind of game

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Storytelling that I want, you know

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Half-life does similar stuff. They have

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some narrative. Yeah, but it's it's not

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you know, I think it's

15:42

similar in some ways, but

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Yeah, no, I remember the game being like

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Just real atmospheric is I think the

15:49

correct word like for

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what it was and what it is

15:52

Like I it's it's very like

15:56

Definitely

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Just primo, yeah

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Yep, yeah, that's the thing I like about

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Video game storytelling is you get to

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experience the story at your own pace and

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it really bothers me when

16:13

the game like rips control

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Away from you to tell you a story. It's

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like no, I don't want to

16:18

if I wanted to watch a movie

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I put a put a blu-ray on you know, like

16:23

I don't mind it depends

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at all depends on the game

16:27

Yeah, if I'm expecting it in the game fine

16:28

If I'm expecting it in the game fine if

16:31

the franchise changes how

16:32

they do it gets annoying

16:33

Yeah, like honestly if they did that in

16:35

half-life, I think I'd be

16:36

very annoyed me too. Absolutely

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so I

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Know what to expect if as long as I know

16:42

what to expect with my game and they

16:45

don't change it too much

16:46

Throughout the years that I'm fine with

16:48

that like if I'm playing an uncharted

16:49

game. I expect it's gonna be very story

16:54

Driven very heavy. Yep

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So

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This is interesting. I I guess I missed

17:01

this when I looked through Monument

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Valley one two and

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three is coming to oh, yeah

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That's kind of neat. I'm I

17:07

Like of all the games I've played on

17:09

Android, which isn't many

17:11

Monument Valley is like the best

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Is a good one. It's on

17:17

Let's see, it's on Android iOS and

17:22

Netflix

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Yeah, it's on Netflix

17:27

That's interesting. Is that pretty sure

17:30

it's on Netflix. Is that why YouTube

17:31

rolled out like those?

17:33

cut the rope games on YouTube because

17:35

Netflix has games on

17:36

it now, I'm sure it is I

17:41

You know if people enjoy that go for I

17:44

Don't play those types of

17:45

games if I'm gonna play a game

17:46

I want to download it and not have it be

17:48

integrated with my videos

17:50

Yeah, if I'm on YouTube or from Netflix,

17:53

I'm watching stuff. I don't want to play

17:55

now that being said I

17:59

Don't mind it being like if people are

18:00

enjoying it go for it

18:03

It's just don't you know if

18:04

it fails don't get mad at me

18:08

Which I feel like is more

18:09

and more the answer to every

18:11

C-level execs like well is the it's the

18:15

Consumers fault it's full even in the get

18:18

like in the game industry to like they

18:19

should have liked it

18:20

It's like no, you should

18:21

have made something better

18:24

Or just top lame us that they call that

18:27

victim blaming. Yeah

18:31

Though though I think the one last thing

18:33

I want to talk about

18:34

With the Nintendo Direct is the virtual

18:36

game cards thing. Have

18:38

you heard about this? No

18:40

So essentially now what you can do is any

18:43

game that you have installed on like like

18:46

as a as a downloadable game

18:48

you can eject from your steam from your

18:51

from your switch and then you can log

18:54

into another switch and

18:56

Insert that cartridge that's a cartridge

18:59

or is it as it's virtual. It's not

19:03

there's not actually a cartridge

19:04

But how do you inject it

19:06

just by like you download it? Oh

19:08

Yeah, you can't lend it to other family

19:12

members, too. So like I

19:14

Love the concept. I'd like it even more

19:16

if I could actually like download a game

19:18

and then they sell like either

19:21

Cartridges that I could write to or just

19:23

SD card that I'd be like the perfect set

19:25

up that it's very unique if Nintendo like

19:28

Did like if Nintendo create came out with

19:31

like their their own Meg cartridge?

19:34

You know where you could load

19:36

Games that you downloaded onto it and

19:38

pass that around that'd be cool

19:40

This is all done digitally. There's no

19:42

physical physicality to it at all still

19:45

Very cool that they're at least doing

19:47

this. This is very

19:48

feels very consumer friendly

19:51

Yeah, they're there are like some stupid

19:54

like weird stipulations

19:55

Like you can share it with your family

19:57

members, but I believe you can only share

20:00

it for like up to 14 days

20:02

Which is just interesting valves doing

20:05

this. Why can't you do it right you know?

20:10

Valve does it in a way to where I think

20:12

if the real login on the

20:13

computer if you're sharing so

20:16

Right unless they switched it

20:19

Val, so now the way it works is you can

20:22

share your games with

20:24

anyone living in your household

20:26

Yeah

20:27

Like my brother lives here my girlfriend

20:30

lives here, and the three of us are

20:31

sharing all of our libraries

20:34

And I I haven't logged into well

20:37

Maybe I did log into

20:38

Emily's steam deck to do it

20:40

But I don't think I logged into my

20:41

brother's computer to do it hmm

20:43

I'm I know that yeah

20:44

It's just accounts like you just log in

20:46

or you just share it with an account

20:48

Well, that's how it used to be and I just

20:50

have I don't know if I've

20:50

set up the new way of doing it

20:52

Or maybe I have and I just don't remember

20:54

but yeah the new way to do it

20:55

It's still not just with it, but it is

20:57

definitely I think pretty solid yeah the

21:00

new way to do it is a lot better

21:01

I know people complained about it when I

21:04

was talking about on my channel because

21:05

They used to be like oh my brother who

21:08

you know my brother who

21:10

lives like 40 states away

21:12

Like I used to share

21:13

my collection with him

21:15

But but now we can't do it, and it's like

21:17

dude. That's not what it was meant for

21:18

like why are you you know?

21:20

I don't know and then you could you'd be

21:23

locked out of your entire library if your

21:25

brother played one of your games

21:26

You know I mean it's just a lot better.

21:28

It's for families that live together like

21:30

this. Yeah, probably more for like

21:32

You know it's for you and your kids 20

21:35

maybe in the 20s and stuff like that is

21:37

kind of what it's meant for and I will

21:39

say this right now like I

21:42

Do think it's a little silly to get upset

21:44

about this type of stuff because a

21:48

Lot of games are so cheap

21:49

just by the by the damn game

21:50

I know it's maybe a privilege for me to

21:52

say that or whatnot, but by the damn game

21:55

support your the the developers we

21:58

So many people have so many games on

22:00

their account just play the games you

22:01

already have I guess

22:03

I don't know, but this is just a nice

22:05

little icing on the cake for me. It is

22:08

not something I use very often

22:10

sometimes my

22:12

My wife uses my like sometimes we'll buy

22:15

a copy of an indie game

22:17

or something like that

22:17

And we'll share play in that but usually

22:21

it's annoying enough to

22:22

because it at least in the past

22:24

You know I couldn't play anything else on

22:25

my account while

22:26

she's playing so sometimes

22:27

I'll just buy a copy for

22:28

just depends on what it is right

22:31

Yeah, yeah, I I don't know I I think this

22:36

virtual game card

22:36

thing here is pretty neat

22:38

I think it's cool. I like and like I

22:39

think it's a pro consumer move

22:41

Yeah, I like that and this works not only

22:43

on the current switch

22:44

But it will work on switch to my is my

22:46

understanding so

22:47

that's that's pretty cool

22:50

Okay, I'm down for that yeah

22:54

Um all right, let's do is there anything

22:56

else you want to talk about

22:57

in this no no poor high tech

23:00

This is probably his highlight

23:02

I'm sure he would have loved talking

23:03

about all these we would have

23:04

talked if high tech was here

23:05

We would have talked about every single

23:06

one of these games, and I've never heard

23:08

of like five of like

23:10

So I would have learned a

23:11

lot from this one yes me too

23:14

This is this is why I miss high tech when

23:16

he's not here because I learned so much

23:20

Alright alright, so I think the next

23:22

story we should talk about is

23:25

Ubisoft is

23:27

Spinning off assassins

23:28

Creed and a couple other

23:31

studios or

23:33

Franchises I should say into its own

23:36

Business unit, and it's getting a cash

23:39

infusion from Tencent

23:40

have you heard about this?

23:43

No, I've only read the article

23:45

Okay, somewhat and so

23:48

It's interesting. It's interesting choice

23:49

so three of their biggest franchises

23:51

assassins Creed Far

23:53

Cry and Rainbow six are

23:56

Becoming their own

23:58

subsidiary of Ubisoft and

24:01

according to this Yahoo Finance article

24:04

It it's valued at four

24:06

billion dollars, which

24:09

Really four billion for those three

24:12

franchises honestly. I thought it would

24:14

be more because those are

24:16

may get franchises

24:18

With how many assassins creeds there are

24:21

how many fire cries

24:22

there are and Tom Clancy's?

24:24

Well, it's Tom Clancy rainbow six, but

24:25

like if it was all

24:26

the Tom Clancy's mm-hmm

24:28

That's a lot if it yeah if

24:30

they're moving the IPs over there

24:31

and it sounds like Ubisoft is gonna

24:33

become more more of a

24:34

holding company or like

24:36

They're gonna become more like Tencent is

24:39

what I it's what this is a kind of look

24:40

at and this is a say

24:41

Probably to save their asses because

24:43

yeah, they've made so many mistakes. I

24:47

could see I

24:49

Could see the Ubisoft starting to go the

24:51

route of becoming like more

24:52

of a holdings company, which

24:55

Just let Ubisoft die in my opinion

24:58

I mean, what do they have like they have

25:00

I mean they have those three games

25:01

But if they were spitting those off into

25:03

its own thing, then what do they have

25:05

left like Splinter Cell?

25:07

This they have stuff. They actually have

25:09

quite a bit of IPs that they don't do

25:11

anything like Rayman

25:12

They if they make another rhythm

25:14

Man those are fun. Yeah, like those are

25:17

really fun. Those are the type of like I

25:19

loved Rayman is a legends

25:22

Yeah, love it. That was really good. That

25:24

was like one of the only good

25:26

You saw if games are played in the last

25:27

decade, you know, oh, you know, what else

25:29

was really good was was it grow?

25:33

or grow home

25:34

grow, um

25:35

It was like you were a red robot and you

25:38

it was like an indie style

25:39

game and you climbed a beanstalk

25:41

That was so much fun. I haven't played

25:43

it, but I've seen it and

25:44

it does look fun far cries

25:46

I love the far cry series, but they just

25:48

released him in such a weird way that

25:50

there's like two of them

25:51

I haven't played and I don't know

25:54

It I played the first far cry at my

25:57

cousin's house on PC and that was not a

26:00

Ubisoft game at the time that was

26:03

That was cry cry tech, right?

26:06

maybe it was published by Ubisoft, but

26:08

like Ubisoft ended up

26:09

buying far cry from cry tech and

26:12

Interesting. So and I played that and I

26:15

remember being like being graphics will

26:16

never get better than this

26:18

Agreed like water ice the amount of time

26:22

I spent optimizing my computer

26:24

overclocking and everything

26:26

Mm-hmm to get far cry to look just better

26:30

was

26:31

stupid I

26:33

remember

26:34

Crawling through the grass like I was

26:37

prone in the grass with my gun and I

26:39

could see the individual blades of grass

26:42

Casting shadows on the gun and I was like

26:45

What dude that's incredible and it was it

26:49

was so much fun and then I

26:51

never played another one I

26:55

Think I played them on the console they

26:56

were okay like because I worked at

26:58

GameStop at the time

26:59

And so they came out for the consoles

27:01

like I think was far cry 2 & 3

27:03

No, no, they were it was far cry. It was

27:05

like it wasn't even far

27:06

cry 2 & 3 it was I don't know

27:09

I've played half the games if it's

27:12

interesting enough. I will play it like

27:13

the doomsday one was interesting

27:18

Was a far cry 5 I think is what it is

27:22

It's the one where like there's a cult

27:24

leader and your wonder is it's pretty

27:27

good. I actually like that one

27:30

But it became more of like

27:32

Situation like far cry 3 is really good

27:34

one. Actually. I definitely

27:35

recommend playing that one

27:36

but it's like the Assassin's Creed series

27:39

like fun, they pumped them

27:41

out too much and they weren't

27:44

The gameplay just was too similar between

27:47

each one and the story just was good

27:49

Usually that's the type of games. I love

27:51

to play. I just didn't get

27:52

into them until black flag

27:53

and then I just that's

27:54

the only one I've beaten but

27:57

this is

27:58

Definitely an interesting direction for

28:00

them to take and I really do think it's

28:02

because they want to save their asses

28:04

Like I said, like I think we've seen it

28:07

like they're failing more and more

28:09

And in order to like save the least the

28:12

sea level execs there like we're gonna

28:16

Set up this new

28:18

Subsidiary and then they're gonna I think

28:20

they're gonna start probably either maybe

28:22

setting up multiple subsidiaries

28:24

And then you just become more of a

28:26

holdings company like Tencent and then

28:28

just work with other

28:28

companies to save themselves

28:29

I can see that it's kind of like how the

28:32

game industry is going right now

28:34

which

28:36

Could end up being good short-term for

28:38

these companies to be a subsidiary it

28:40

could really actually help

28:42

It's has to create far cry

28:43

to Tom Clancy rainbow six have

28:46

Being a focus of that company that are

28:48

gonna be part of

28:48

instead of a huge conglomerate

28:50

Could help them

28:52

But it could all it will most likely be a

28:54

double double-edged sword with these

28:56

types of holding companies

28:57

Eventually it will they will get sold off

28:59

or pieced apart. We'll see I don't I

29:02

don't have a lot of hope and stuff

29:04

Like this right now. No, I mean, I don't

29:06

have any I didn't have any hope anyway

29:09

But like I mean cuz Tencent already owned

29:11

like 10% of Ubisoft, right? Yeah, but now

29:14

they're going to acquire

29:15

25% stake in

29:17

This new entity here. Yeah, so that's

29:21

like whoa this article says it's one

29:24

point one six billion euro

29:28

to acquire 25% of this

29:31

company, which is just bonkers and

29:34

I

29:36

Mean that means like

29:37

Tencent is like involved in

29:40

So many like different

29:42

publishers right like Tencent

29:45

There it's interesting because Tencent.

29:47

I'm sure they have a little bit of a say,

29:49

but I don't know if they directly

29:51

influence too much

29:55

But they own a

29:58

Big chunk of probably most

30:00

Okay

30:02

At least well, I shouldn't say a big

30:04

chunk like as a whole games, but like

30:07

individually they

30:08

probably own like a quarter

30:11

At least a piece of a quarter of the

30:13

games out there. I would I wouldn't be

30:14

shocked if they don't have some

30:17

I mean, yeah, they own like a

30:22

Minority stake in epic. Yeah, they own

30:25

like a ton. They own so much.

30:27

It's it's very concerning why

30:30

Legends I think they do too. Oh, yeah,

30:32

they I think they fully own League of

30:34

Legends like the whole studio. Yeah

30:37

But the studio still or like the company

30:39

still I think acts more on

30:41

a creative level on its own

30:42

I don't think it's not like Ubisoft where

30:45

I feel like Ubisoft gave too many

30:47

directives and then

30:48

kind of like destroyed them

30:49

I I will have to give this to Tencent and

30:52

I could be wrong people could let me know

30:53

in the comments or just let

30:54

us know somehow

30:56

But I don't know if Tencent is as direct

30:59

but that doesn't mean they couldn't be or

31:01

that they're behind the shadows

31:02

Being more direct and I'm not saying that

31:04

this is a good thing. It's just

31:06

Interesting. Yeah, it's very interesting.

31:08

Oh my gosh. They're the

31:10

Tencent headquarters is

31:13

Bazaar, it's bizarre. What is a company

31:16

that looks that is like like

31:20

The owns like a quarter of the world

31:23

What is it? What are their

31:24

headquarters building look like?

31:27

Oh my gosh, why why would you want your

31:31

building to look like

31:32

that? I like unique stuff

31:34

I think it looks interesting

31:36

But yeah, it is

31:37

weird. That is very strange

31:40

And even has connections between the two

31:42

towers. So yeah, that's yeah.

31:44

There you go. That's Tencent

31:46

They probably don't produce any products

31:48

in there. It's all legal and

31:52

Business people that thing

31:55

Fascinating

31:56

Makes me feel weird, man

32:00

It it's fascinating how many companies

32:04

own

32:05

They don't do any like how many companies

32:08

own games or game

32:10

companies that don't do then

32:14

Their headquarters is drastically

32:16

different. They can go to the game studio

32:17

very different than if

32:19

you went to the business

32:21

District that we don't need to get into

32:22

that crap. Yeah, what's this next thing?

32:25

The next thing is there's a bunch of

32:28

publishers who want to delay their games

32:31

so that they don't compete with GTA 6

32:36

What do you think what do you think about

32:37

that headline first of

32:38

all first impressions?

32:41

Yeah, they're right like

32:42

you'd be an idiot to release

32:46

Honestly, you'd be an idiot. They should

32:48

be avoiding this year period probably

32:50

um

32:52

Especially if GTA 6 is gonna be $300 like

32:55

people are saying and I'm just gonna no

32:57

one's saying that but they might as well

32:59

I'll keep on upping that. Um, I

33:02

Because I don't care about that game very

33:04

much. I'm I'll

33:05

eventually play it or buy it

33:06

I don't know when but it would be

33:08

fascinating to see if they charge like

33:11

$500 see how many people would actually

33:12

buy it for like a year early

33:14

access more or less just to see

33:17

Because I'm you know, let's say a mask is

33:20

or something like that, but

33:23

Yeah, I mean within a month you probably

33:25

don't want to release within a month's

33:28

period of this game coming

33:29

out not even the same week

33:32

Yeah, dude, I mean I

33:35

did I release my game

33:38

the same day as Hades

33:41

2 stealth dropped and

33:44

My game sold nothing like it was so bad

33:48

So I like GTA 6 is poised to be like

33:50

probably one of the biggest launches of

33:52

any media anything ever

33:54

And so I don't blame

33:56

people for wanting to avoid it

33:58

This cut this report comes from the game

34:00

business, which I don't think I've ever

34:01

heard of the game business calm

34:03

and

34:05

According to this article three major

34:07

video game publishers

34:07

have told the game business

34:09

They are ready to delay their games to

34:12

avoid Grand Theft Auto 6

34:14

Rockstar's first GTA game in 12 years is

34:17

due for release at the end of

34:19

2025 and game companies are holding off

34:21

confirming their q4 release slate until

34:24

the developer makes its move. Yeah

34:28

Yeah, I don't there's been

34:30

Multiple games that have released during

34:32

a very popular game.

34:33

Let's say Call of Duty

34:34

There's been multiple really good games

34:36

have released and very around very

34:38

popular game releases

34:40

and and because of that

34:42

Done very poorly and I don't think it's

34:45

because of marketing or anything else. I

34:47

think it's because of that and so I

34:50

Will I and I we've said this in the past.

34:53

I will say this again

34:53

I think it'd be hilarious just to see the

34:57

half-life would lose but I want to see

34:58

half-life 3 dropped the same week

35:00

Just to see yeah. Oh,

35:02

yeah half-life would lose

35:05

But at least I'd have some of the plates

35:06

and not I probably won't I just don't

35:09

want to be tempted to buy this

35:10

The week of I'm and I probably will

35:13

From dude for me. There is literally zero

35:17

temptation like I have no

35:19

interest in playing this game

35:20

I have FOMO all the time. Oh, so I get

35:24

bad FOMO depending on the game

35:26

And if this game has like really fun

35:27

things to do in it, I

35:29

don't care about the GTA story

35:30

I don't want to be a bad guy

35:32

Personally, but I love running around and

35:35

doing and finding all

35:36

the cool stuff to do in GTA

35:38

That's the thing I like about GTA

35:39

As long as they don't lock that out and I

35:41

can just go cruise around even though I

35:43

don't want to go to Miami

35:44

I think that's where it's at, right? It's

35:45

like it's in Florida somewhere again.

35:47

Yeah something like that

35:48

It's not what it's called, but that's

35:50

what they base it off of

35:51

Vice City Vice City. Yeah, I

35:54

It'd still be fascinating to go around

35:57

and just see what they've added. Yes

36:00

That's why I'd get it. I mean that the

36:03

only appeal is that for me

36:05

like I don't I have no interest in

36:09

For me it's like this

36:11

is the thing that's like

36:13

For me, I don't care about like

36:16

supporting Rockstar. I don't want to

36:17

support them in anything. I hate Rockstar

36:21

They're unethical the way they treat

36:22

their employees blah blah blah the list

36:24

goes on and on so I

36:26

don't want to support them

36:28

Also like the last

36:30

good GTA was GTA Vice City

36:32

I think like GTA 4 was okay

36:35

But like Vice City was like the only one

36:37

that I really or the last one that I

36:39

enjoyed I didn't care for

36:41

San Andreas I didn't care for GTA 4 that

36:44

much and I definitely didn't like GTA 5

36:48

So I'm just I'm just not interested. I

36:51

don't know I like the Red Dead Redemption

36:53

series, and so I will say that

36:56

They're good. They're good. Yeah

36:58

but

37:00

Yeah, their GTA series is just okay like

37:02

they have other franchises that I like

37:05

more. Let's just say that hmm

37:07

because they have like

37:10

Max Payne series

37:14

bully

37:16

they have

37:18

Bullied on I I remember playing bully

37:20

that was that was pretty good. Yeah, they

37:24

Forgot about Red Dead revolver the heck

37:25

they had to read it read it revolver and

37:28

so they have some good stuff I

37:31

Just yeah, just not as interested. Yeah,

37:34

I haven't even put eight hours into GTA 5

37:41

Honestly that could be more than I put

37:44

into it really I think

37:46

GTA 5 is I don't know I probably put

37:49

around that just well

37:50

I just I spent time wandering around and

37:53

just having fun hmm. That's it, and then

37:55

I'm sure I played something else

37:57

Yeah, the thing is I like the driving

37:59

mechanics in a lot of GTA games. I

38:02

Yeah, like I said at the top of the show.

38:04

I like driving games, but

38:06

the getting out of the

38:07

car and like shooting and

38:09

Beating people up and stealing shit and

38:12

whatever I don't I just don't it was

38:14

But it was fun and novel when it was

38:16

naughty for a kid to be

38:17

playing it, and I'm not

38:18

I'm saying yeah, no I hear yet. I like

38:23

the watchdog series more for this type of

38:24

stuff where it feels

38:27

Slightly more ethical

38:28

But teach their own I guess I like the

38:31

the the watchdog series, but yeah

38:34

I think I played a little bit of that

38:36

what that's a Ubisoft game

38:38

It is a Ubisoft game, and it is actually

38:40

another series. I Ubisoft sounds a couple

38:41

of series. I really like my wish I

38:44

Wish they weren't so

38:45

tied up with everything

38:47

else

38:48

so

38:50

Yeah, so one thing about this it looks

38:52

like one of the games

38:53

That's good. That's probably gonna get

38:55

delayed is the new battlefield or the

38:58

battlefield relaunch. I should say

39:01

Battlefield relaunch

39:03

yeah, I'm a bit heard of that

39:04

I hadn't heard of that either are they

39:06

like relaunching the whole series because

39:08

they fucked up so bad

39:10

with the last one probably

39:12

dude, I bought I

39:14

reserved that one and I didn't

39:16

It was so I played the beta. It was fun

39:19

enough, but I'm like

39:19

okay. There's some big bugs

39:20

Hopefully they fix up

39:21

my time it comes out

39:22

I reserved it because I was super excited

39:23

about it because it's a little bit more

39:25

futuristic just a little bit and they

39:26

I like those types of battlefield games

39:28

I want them to do another like I wanted

39:31

them to do a like a

39:31

real futuristic game, but

39:34

besides the point and

39:36

I wasn't able to return it because I

39:38

waited too long because I didn't even

39:40

play it I didn't even play

39:41

Because it had such bad

39:43

reviews when it first came out

39:45

And I just have such a bad taste about

39:48

all that and it was it's my

39:50

fall at the end of the day, but

39:52

They're gonna have to do a lot to redeem

39:54

themselves because their last game was

39:56

performed and looked

39:57

worse than their previous two

40:00

Like you I don't know what you have to do

40:03

the royally fuck that bad

40:04

Just use this you could use the same like

40:06

you're using the same engine. Yeah, how

40:08

do you just screw it up that bad?

40:10

Oh

40:18

Only in the video game industry right

40:19

that's what it feels like sometimes they

40:21

release a new like I

40:24

Don't get it. I don't get I don't I don't

40:26

get just use the same assets and

40:30

Just work off of that don't I don't know

40:32

what they were doing

40:33

But it just ended up being drastically

40:35

worse, and it didn't look as good and

40:37

everything else like yeah

40:39

Well, we'll get to reusing assets in a

40:41

minute. There's another story. We're

40:43

gonna talk about in a minute

40:44

before we get to that though game stop

40:48

Plans to close a significant number of

40:50

stars and invest in

40:51

Bitcoin because it's 2018

40:54

I honestly haven't read this article of

41:00

you. Have you read this article? I

41:02

Have not they have been in the end

41:06

And an FT stop they've done on an NFT.

41:09

They've done the crypto stuff before

41:12

It is interesting that the reinvesting in

41:14

a Bitcoin. Maybe it's because

41:16

The US government is attempting to divest

41:20

into Bitcoin, which is a bizarre thing

41:24

Yeah, I don't know it could like if they

41:32

invest now and then the US government

41:34

Invest in and then they could then they

41:36

could rugpole and then they'd make at

41:38

least survive a little longer. Yeah

41:42

Dude I have you been

41:43

to a game stop recently

41:45

Yeah, oh my gosh. I there's a game stop

41:48

about 20 minutes from my house

41:50

And I went in there

41:52

Just because I was like in the area and

41:55

I'd get like a sandwich

41:55

at this shop next door

41:57

And I was like I was like what's been

41:59

it's been like two three years

42:01

since I've been to a game stop

42:01

Let's go in there, so I

42:02

went in there with Emily

42:04

And it was depressing it was

42:08

Depressing it was like

42:09

there were there were patches of

42:13

Like physical media on the walls, right

42:16

and then there were

42:17

empty shelves in between

42:19

So like there was the Xbox section and

42:21

then it was mostly empty shelves

42:23

And then it was the PlayStation section

42:25

and then it was mostly empty shelves and

42:27

then in the center of the store

42:29

It was like the kind of stuff that you

42:33

would have got from

42:33

ThinkGeek like, you know

42:35

15 years ago or whatever

42:36

it was like a bunch of like

42:38

plushies and

42:40

Like nerdy like trinkets and stuff and I

42:43

was like this sucks

42:44

like this is really sad

42:47

Um

42:48

My my kid really did like it

42:51

My son he was he was pretty like when we

42:53

went in there's a lot of cool stuff

42:55

Honestly, I've been I live probably 30

42:59

minutes away from you know

43:00

10 minutes to 30 minutes from like four

43:03

maybe five game stops like where I live I

43:06

can get to them pretty quick

43:09

Some of them are very depressing and some

43:10

of them are okay like

43:11

the one I went to was okay

43:12

The problem was is like

43:13

they didn't have split fiction

43:17

New which is and they came out that week

43:20

which I think it just did well enough to

43:21

where it was sold out

43:22

Which I've just never heard of a game

43:24

selling out in a long time

43:26

Back in the in the 90s and 2000s. You had

43:29

to reserve games and

43:30

they could sell out. Yeah

43:33

Nowadays because the digital and

43:34

everything I just don't

43:35

hear a game selling out. So I

43:37

Wasn't able to pick that game up at the

43:39

GameStop, but I picked up

43:40

some I don't do this very often

43:42

But I picked up some used ps5 games there

43:44

one of them being watchdogs

43:46

Lee, I think it was like legions or

43:48

something like that,

43:48

which I haven't played yet

43:50

But I picked up for five bucks make sure

43:51

why not like this is a

43:52

series. I really like

43:54

It wasn't bad and they had a lot. They

43:56

actually had quite a bit of a selection

43:58

which is not typical

44:02

But it's definitely not the same as it

44:04

used to be right? They get

44:07

Going downhill

44:09

Unfortunately, yeah, and I say that

44:11

because if I go to a mall

44:13

I there's not a whole lot

44:14

I'm gonna be doing at a mall. I want to

44:15

game stop right. Oh, man. I

44:18

haven't been to a mall dude

44:19

There's a mall like 40

44:20

minutes from my house

44:24

It's in Bangor in Bangor, Maine and

44:28

they I keep getting like email note or

44:31

not emails, but like

44:32

push notifications from the

44:34

from the newspaper because I'm a

44:37

subscriber because local media and

44:40

I

44:41

keep getting emails like the city of

44:43

Bangor has decided to

44:45

Like use eminent domain to take the mall

44:48

Like it is it's dude like it is like

44:52

collapsing in on itself

44:53

Like that bolt two of the three anchors

44:56

are gone. Like it's

44:58

just it's bad. It's so bad

45:00

And like people Walmart walk mall walkers

45:04

are like not going in there anymore

45:07

Because like it's so bad like and when

45:09

you lose the mall walkers you

45:11

you've lost the plot as a mall

45:14

It's what's that?

45:15

Funny enough like the closer you get to

45:17

like art the denser parts of our

45:18

metropolitan area here in Salt Lake City

45:20

Like it's the moles are

45:22

much fancier much like nicer

45:24

Yeah, no further you get away from that

45:26

and more into like more libertarian areas

45:28

I will say this but it is

45:30

like that like there's one

45:33

South of me that is

45:35

Half of it. It feels like

45:37

they're trying to set it up to be

45:39

Almost like what is it? I don't even know

45:41

what the word is in English

45:44

Because I know it in Russian but

45:48

It's like third-party markets where

45:51

people like kind of like it sound like

45:52

what you were saying

45:53

So you I went in like I've never heard of

45:56

any of these stores.

45:56

They're set up in a very weird

45:58

Mmm, almost third world away in some way.

46:01

I don't know. Yeah, it's

46:02

not it wasn't third world

46:03

Obviously, but like they're knockoff

46:04

generic brand right is bizarre

46:07

Yeah, and I'm just like this is this is

46:10

unfortunate because

46:11

it's a nice two-story mall

46:13

Yeah, don't get me started cuz I do like

46:16

it pisses me off when I go

46:18

on like Amazon and it's like

46:22

You know you search for like something

46:24

whatever Kleenex and it comes up with

46:27

dinger bring

46:29

brand

46:31

Kleenex tissues and I'm and you're like

46:33

what what does dinger bring mean?

46:34

What does that even have like there's you

46:36

know, at least with Kleenex. It's

46:38

inferring an idea of

46:39

like cleaning your nose

46:42

Whatever. Hey, oh man it so that kind of

46:45

stuff that happens at arm all up here,

46:46

too. It's it's oh, yeah it is

46:51

Amazon's almost getting unusable. It's

46:52

going the way of like Google

46:55

yeah, search in some ways because you go

46:57

to Amazon and you type something in and

46:59

you're gonna get all the

47:01

Chinese knockoff or

47:05

Yeah, it is

47:06

You're not gonna get exactly what you

47:08

want and because it's cheaper people you

47:10

tend to buy that but

47:11

it's cheaper for a reason

47:13

so

47:15

man

47:17

So I want GameStop to survive I

47:20

It's unfortunate. I want I honestly I

47:22

want malls to survive so that they can

47:24

compete with Amazon. I just don't know

47:27

What yeah, I mean

47:28

Here's the thing and this is getting into

47:30

like my own politics a

47:32

little bit, but I'll tell you this

47:33

I want malls and Amazon to disappear. I

47:36

think the only like real competition that

47:38

you can manage against Amazon is

47:42

Local Main Streets, right? Like malls are

47:45

a completely unnatural

47:47

And so fun economic like sink they don't

47:52

they don't belong like they're there

47:54

They're like a cancer in my opinion and I

47:57

think that Amazon can only exist

47:59

Because of the culture that malls created

48:01

but that that goes that goes on to it

48:04

Like malls here like in the winter time.

48:06

I don't want to walk the streets to go

48:09

shopping at a strip mall or a strips

48:11

Street, I don't want to walk the the

48:13

malls are nice. You go in nice pleasant.

48:16

You can get yourself

48:17

Some food walk around when to shop a

48:19

little bit then go in like I'm not like I

48:22

wish malls had more stuff for me

48:23

Like I'm not as big into like

48:25

shopping for clothes, but I'll go with my

48:28

wife and it's it's it's nice to walk

48:31

around and then they have

48:34

They'll have events there they have

48:35

trains like it's fun,

48:37

but I agree like it can I

48:41

Don't know. It's a hard one because my

48:44

whole thing is it's private property

48:47

That's owned the and I don't like that

48:50

Aspect like you in order to go into any

48:53

of these shops you have to

48:54

first go into private property

48:56

I do like that it's walkable, right?

48:58

But it also means you have to in most

49:01

places you have to drive your car and

49:03

park in order to walk the mall

49:05

Which dude, we should just have like

49:08

walkable cities right walkable town. Oh,

49:10

I agree with that and so

49:12

And like if you wanted to go protest at

49:14

the mall, you can't protest at the mall

49:16

You can't you can't like interesting

49:18

because it's private property. They can

49:20

control who can and can't be there

49:23

And but if you wanted to like make a

49:25

statement out on Main Street

49:27

You can get people's attention and you

49:29

can actually do it. I don't know if you

49:31

protest, but I worry about these things

49:33

Yeah, you could you could

49:36

Convinced me to like more of a public

49:38

style mall for like each city, but

49:42

That would be interesting to yeah

49:43

I just like it would be Main Street. I

49:47

Know but I wanted to be indoors because

49:49

yeah here in Utah it gets

49:51

really hot or gets really cold

49:52

And I don't like dealing

49:55

with Main Street or walking

49:57

House I like doing I was

49:59

like in downtown Salt Lake

50:02

There's a mall and I'm not gonna get be

50:05

down behind the religious portions of

50:07

this mall, but it is

50:10

It is really like I love what humanity

50:13

can build like I love cruises. I love

50:15

yeah big massive things. I just like

50:18

Big structures yeah, but the top portion

50:20

can open up in the summertime

50:23

And then it closes in the wintertime so

50:25

that it can stay heated and that is

50:27

awesome now the problem is it's all super

50:30

expensive luxury items for

50:33

The elite religious

50:34

people around here, but yeah

50:37

It's dope cool. That

50:39

is I mean it sounds cool

50:41

the reason that I

50:44

The reason I brought any of this up was

50:46

like when I moved I lived

50:48

in Kentucky for a while and

50:50

There was like nowhere to walk like just

50:54

to walk by shops and businesses

50:57

Unless it was in a mall and

50:59

when I came back to Maine I

51:02

I

51:02

Realized how much I missed the Main

51:05

Street right like

51:07

because the town I grew up in

51:09

You can walk down Main Street, and

51:11

there's 70 businesses. They're all small

51:14

businesses their own

51:16

Locally many of them are producing their

51:18

own products right right here in Maine

51:21

Great, but and that's how it is in many

51:24

of the towns especially along the coast

51:26

right you go to Bar Harbor

51:27

You go to Rockland you go to

51:29

Portland I mean there's so many really

51:32

nice Main Streets and even

51:34

inland at the end in Bangor

51:36

There's a really great Main Street

51:37

But like down in Kentucky like there was

51:39

nowhere to walk around and meet people

51:42

and do things and then

51:43

I think that's my lucky

51:44

issue I've been to a

51:45

couple of different places in

51:47

South and and other parts of like I

51:52

Yeah, because like so on the west coast

51:55

and in like here in Utah

51:58

We have both we have a mix of both we

52:01

have a Main Street where?

52:03

like the one I was talking about

52:05

Like the GameStop we have GameStops that

52:07

are outside you have to walk to it

52:09

You have to walk to the target yet the

52:10

walk like we have a mix of both the

52:12

problem more than any of the time is

52:16

Half our walkable stuff

52:17

outside is yet across the street

52:19

And you have a bunch of assholes here

52:20

like we have so much

52:22

road rages that we we have

52:25

This is going way off topic

52:27

campaigns for

52:28

People do not shoot each other when with

52:30

road rage because we've had so many

52:31

incidents. Oh my gosh Wow so a

52:34

Mall feels a lot safer for my kids do not

52:36

get rent over or shot so yeah

52:39

Well yeah, and that leads me to wanting

52:41

to ban cars, but that's

52:42

just I'm an extremist I

52:45

Can be an extremist too sometimes I want

52:47

walkable cities to with you

52:48

I'm with you on that one because it's

52:49

honestly if you go to a city

52:52

that is walkable or

52:54

That has really good public

52:56

transportation.

52:56

That's clean and everything

52:58

you're

52:59

You change your mind. I think I think

53:01

people just need to go do that more

53:02

because you'd be shocked at

53:03

how pleasant it can be and

53:07

I agree with you on that there's a town

53:09

This is the last thing I'll

53:10

say about this there's a town

53:12

About an hour from here where like at a

53:15

certain point in the day

53:16

Traffic is completely closed on on most

53:19

of its main roads like

53:20

it downtown and and like

53:22

when when traffic closes

53:24

people go out in the streets and

53:27

and and it's and it's not like you know

53:29

there's just a few people walking down

53:31

the street while you're

53:31

driving right you see just a

53:33

handful of people they

53:34

close the streets and

53:36

People flood the streets and it's like

53:38

where are all these people like when cars

53:40

are in play right there?

53:42

They're they're trapped in their private

53:44

little cars, and they

53:45

don't they don't go out

53:46

They don't spend money at the local shops

53:48

It's crazy to me like I don't understand

53:50

why we do shut the way we do here

53:53

It's a whole go like there's a lot of

53:56

documentaries. There's a lot of stuff on

53:57

this on the whole car

54:00

Lobbyists like people are more

54:03

brainwashed and more

54:05

Trained to do this than they realize it's

54:07

kind of hilarious actually, but yeah

54:10

Did we have a similar

54:11

like where I grew up in st.

54:14

George we had this we have the same thing

54:15

like they'd close down Main Street

54:17

That concerts and stuff and you could

54:18

walk around and I think they did it in

54:20

the summer time to do it every week

54:22

I think yeah

54:24

So yeah in the summer

54:25

Yeah

54:25

it's like I think I think they're

54:27

planning on closing one of the streets

54:29

like permanently over the summer and

54:31

Just letting people park a couple blocks

54:34

away and walk and there's

54:35

more cities doing that yeah

54:37

Which is good needs to

54:39

happen it needs to happen yeah

54:42

But

54:43

I like seeing game stops when I go to

54:45

malls or go to strip like when I go to

54:47

place like that because it's fun at

54:48

Least isn't a place I can go to yeah

54:50

While my wife goes and shops for

54:52

something like else that I might not be

54:54

as interested in yeah

54:55

And I can go do some window shopping is

54:57

and I don't know also I

54:59

worked at the game stops

55:00

So it's nostalgic for me kind of just

55:01

yeah thing I want to say on that

55:03

Yeah, I mean it's it's sad because I

55:04

think about game stuff like

55:05

when I think about game stop

55:07

I'm like man that you know I remember

55:08

going to game stop

55:09

and it was an experience

55:10

You know I told that story about like

55:12

when my brother like we did the midnight

55:15

Halo reach launched

55:16

together, and that was so much fun

55:18

So it is nostalgic and and it is sad that

55:21

they're closing how many stores that they

55:23

don't even say it's just the

55:25

There they're still significant stores.

55:27

It's gonna keep on happening. They've

55:29

almost like they've almost

55:30

gone on over multiple times

55:32

It'll be interesting to see how they're

55:33

in they invest in Bitcoin

55:35

I'm not against a changing our global

55:38

Currency or even going to

55:40

something different. I just I

55:43

Just don't know I'm a little turned off

55:46

by Bitcoin right now, but we'll see I I

55:51

Do think that another reason game stops

55:53

also not doing as well as

55:54

physical media is not as popular

55:57

People also hate their like you they're

55:59

like well if I trade

56:00

something in it's not as you know I

56:02

Get screwed on I'm like yeah

56:03

Well, then don't trade it in like this

56:04

the only option you have or you can sell

56:06

it on Facebook

56:06

marketplace like that's okay

56:08

Capitalism works you're not gonna get the

56:09

best deal every time and I

56:10

think people have a bitter

56:14

You know experience from that but yeah,

56:17

yeah, I don't know I

56:21

Whatever let's move on

56:22

I know it's it's depressing if I'm gonna

56:26

buy physical media anyway. I'm gonna go

56:28

to bull most music

56:29

which is a locally owned oh

56:32

Music and game and movie plays so anyway

56:35

I

56:37

Gg

56:40

They're reusing assets in like a dragon.

56:42

I told you we'd get to this

56:44

They're defending their their rationale

56:47

and honestly like I think we're using

56:49

assets in games make sense

56:52

I like I don't I haven't read this one.

56:55

This was put in here by high tech, but I

56:59

Don't know the the fact

57:00

that they're reusing assets

57:02

Means that they get to put more time into

57:04

other things like if if that's actually

57:06

what they're doing. I don't know

57:09

But like make from like if

57:11

I'm if I made a new game and

57:14

And it made sense for me to include some

57:15

assets from doodlings. I would do it. Why

57:17

not it's already made

57:19

So this debate has been going on for a

57:22

long time of reusing assets

57:25

Some games have reused too many where you

57:27

see a game come out too

57:29

soon. I think Far Cry 5's

57:31

What is it there's a game that came out

57:35

right after Far Cry 5

57:36

that was because I'm

57:39

spoilers if you if you don't

57:40

know how Far Cry 5 ends, but

57:42

Nukes do land which is a little annoying

57:44

you do all the work and the the freaking

57:46

person still wins at the end

57:48

And then the next game

57:50

that's like it's like a spin-off

57:52

You play in the post-apocalyptic area

57:56

They were used a ton of the assets, but I

57:58

don't think it was like

57:59

$40. It wasn't $60 game

58:02

That's a little bit

58:03

pushing the line where

58:05

90 like it feels like 80% of the game

58:07

wasn't was the same but at the same time

58:10

I

58:11

Think more studios need to reuse assets

58:14

But then make sure they

58:16

inject a lot of new stuff

58:17

So you make they feel like a new game as

58:19

long as you're making

58:20

it feel like a new game

58:22

That is totally fine to reuse assets. You

58:24

just got to make sure you have some

58:26

unique new assets to add to it

58:28

Yeah, I agree it there has yeah you get a

58:31

feel it out. You

58:32

gotta like make sure that

58:33

It's not just a complete asset flip

58:36

But also if you own the assets and you're

58:38

not like buying them from somewhere else

58:41

like a third party then it's totally cool

58:43

I think I'm just even fine with third

58:45

party if you you can modify those things

58:47

And like it's a rock. It's a rock yeah

58:50

There's certain things that are fine, but

58:52

yeah if you're going to

58:53

make it look and feel generic

58:56

It's just gonna sell like a generic so

58:59

yeah better be careful with that right

59:01

I mean like that kind of goes back to

59:03

when we were talking about like

59:05

So many Unreal Engine 5

59:07

games look and feel very similar

59:10

And it's cuz they're using

59:11

like the Nana the Nanaite

59:13

Not Nanaite. What's the thing like the

59:15

there's luminous then I there's

59:19

Well, it's like the

59:20

assets from that. Oh the mega

59:23

It's now called a fab store um yeah,

59:25

yeah, I don't know they they oh you run

59:29

the risk when you use

59:30

Yeah, or reuse assets that your games

59:32

just gonna look like everybody else's

59:34

they're all using the same rock textures

59:36

They're all using the same

59:36

trees. You know you can well

59:39

Here's the here's a little trick if

59:40

you're building a game

59:41

And you get those which I do I do use

59:43

some of those assets you

59:45

modify them you change them up

59:48

I'm not a 3d artist, so I can't you know

59:51

recreate all this other stuff

59:53

But you can get them and you can modify

59:55

textures you can modify a lot of

59:56

different things that make them your own

59:58

That's the trick you

1:00:00

got to make it feel not

1:00:02

Generic and with the Unreal engine

1:00:05

I don't I don't agree and I think you

1:00:08

gardener and like most the industry

1:00:10

Do feel this way with the Unreal Engine?

1:00:12

I feel like it is a developer issue if

1:00:15

you're unreal 5 game

1:00:17

feels the same as another one

1:00:19

That's not a developer issue not a

1:00:22

Engine issue per se they just made it

1:00:24

easier, and then people

1:00:25

are being lazy I guess yeah

1:00:28

I

1:00:28

Can see that one one thing too about this

1:00:30

is like they fully acknowledge that they?

1:00:33

Reused assets and unlike

1:00:35

a lot of other companies

1:00:38

In our studios in the

1:00:40

in the industry you know

1:00:42

RGG studio has been one of the few that's

1:00:45

like releasing games

1:00:47

Pretty frequently you know

1:00:49

And it takes time to develop new like

1:00:52

assets, so if you can reuse stuff. I

1:00:54

think it makes sense

1:00:57

Just make it feel different just make it

1:00:58

hard a certain amount

1:00:59

make sure it feels different

1:01:02

I

1:01:04

Don't I don't have much else to say you

1:01:05

have anything else about that

1:01:06

one. That's that's it like I I

1:01:11

It's interesting these types of stories

1:01:13

will pop up all the time like they'll pop

1:01:15

up every few years on

1:01:18

Asset reusing like using reusing assets

1:01:20

and so just do it right it's

1:01:23

a balancing game, man. Yeah

1:01:26

So Cristiano Ronaldo. I

1:01:29

don't know who that is

1:01:30

is

1:01:32

Now in a fighting game I?

1:01:35

only slightly know

1:01:38

It's a dude

1:01:40

Was the fighter chiseled draw yeah, so

1:01:47

Yeah, I

1:01:50

Mean

1:01:52

There's more more

1:01:53

celebrities partnering up like

1:01:56

How what is his face?

1:02:00

He does man. He lives

1:02:02

actually here in Salt Lake

1:02:04

but

1:02:06

The celebrity there's a

1:02:08

celebrity that is here. He's a senior

1:02:12

and he's partnered up with

1:02:17

Like three or four different

1:02:18

companies like game companies

1:02:20

To do just DLC's and stuff for so it's

1:02:23

it's interesting how it it's becoming

1:02:25

more and more of a thing

1:02:26

It's like a four is like fortnight

1:02:27

I think fortnight started this trend to

1:02:29

start including more and more

1:02:30

celebrities. How do you feel about

1:02:32

celebrities entering the gaming world?

1:02:35

I mean, I liked it back in the day when

1:02:38

Jack Black was in

1:02:41

That double fine game I

1:02:45

Can't remember the name of it on which

1:02:46

double fine game was

1:02:47

he in he was it a voice

1:02:49

He's been in a couple of them. Yeah, he

1:02:50

did um. Oh he voiced it

1:02:52

It wasn't his like him as well character

1:02:55

though Jack Black double fine

1:02:59

Cuz I've played a few

1:03:00

double fine, and I'm

1:03:03

What is this one oh?

1:03:05

Yeah, see this makes so much sense like

1:03:08

this is brutal legend. Oh my god. I can't

1:03:10

put a legend couldn't think of the name

1:03:11

Yeah, yeah, so that 100% makes sense it

1:03:14

makes like honestly even with this

1:03:16

fighter one the

1:03:17

fiddle fury it makes sense

1:03:18

I don't know how I feel about this

1:03:21

Fully it makes sense, but especially if

1:03:24

you want to try to capture

1:03:25

a whole new crowd of people

1:03:28

Mm-hmm you could drive cells really well,

1:03:29

but it it can come off. It's very cringe

1:03:32

if not done. He's a he's a footballer

1:03:35

Yeah, he's a it looks like

1:03:37

he's not yeah, yeah, okay

1:03:39

Well, I mean a footballer in a fighting

1:03:41

game and fatal fury well

1:03:43

at the end it showed the his

1:03:46

Old or something like that whatever it

1:03:48

is. I'm not I haven't played Phil for a

1:03:50

long time, but he kicked the soccer ball

1:03:52

Yeah, yeah, okay

1:03:55

Yeah, little cringe to me, but yeah well

1:03:58

dude I kind of like the either play like

1:04:00

any of the NBA games

1:04:02

like from like the mid

1:04:04

2010s where they had like the actual NBA

1:04:08

players come in and do the

1:04:09

voice overs yeah for the story

1:04:11

And it's like hey, man

1:04:14

You know time to get a thing done

1:04:16

It's like just puts an

1:04:18

effort in man, but uh yeah

1:04:21

I don't know I feel like that's I kind of

1:04:23

got those vibes here from from his acting

1:04:27

Like where was it? He's like looking like

1:04:30

oh geez. Oh, no big cartoon, man

1:04:36

It's they have their skill sets that

1:04:38

they've trained their whole

1:04:39

life for and it's definitely not

1:04:41

Yeah, some of the stuff that is

1:04:46

definitely not voice

1:04:47

acting that's for sure

1:04:49

It is interesting though like I

1:04:54

Like they there's a lot of people that

1:04:57

are entering the world like a lot of

1:05:00

actors entering the world of being

1:05:01

modeled inside of games,

1:05:03

which I think is interesting I

1:05:05

Don't want it to eat into

1:05:07

voice actors themselves though

1:05:09

I don't want them to lose a job and these

1:05:12

people like I don't know I just

1:05:15

It runs the risk of just

1:05:16

reusing the same person it

1:05:19

The same person over and over again, and

1:05:21

it's like Jack Black right now is

1:05:23

starting to feel very fatigued like I

1:05:26

Seen him in Minecraft. I'm just like not

1:05:28

interested. That's the

1:05:29

part I'm interested about

1:05:30

I'm just like dude, okay, you don't need

1:05:34

to be in everything dude

1:05:35

like yeah, it's starting

1:05:36

I want some fresh blood. I

1:05:38

want a new talent. I want a

1:05:42

Difference in my media. I don't need the

1:05:44

same person right like

1:05:49

Yeah, I mean for for me

1:05:51

It's like it was it's it's fun when it's

1:05:53

novel and it's and and it's it's fun when

1:05:56

it's unique and

1:05:57

interesting and makes sense

1:05:59

And as soon as that's any of those three

1:06:02

Cease to be the case. It's I'm not

1:06:05

interested anymore. You know like

1:06:09

Keanu Reeves in

1:06:12

Cyberpunk I was just kind of

1:06:14

like now we don't need that

1:06:16

But see that's the part that's the one

1:06:17

where I actually liked it. I actually

1:06:20

really liked his character in sight

1:06:23

I haven't I haven't played I don't know

1:06:25

And that's fine. There's a lot of people

1:06:27

that didn't that though

1:06:27

there weren't fans of that

1:06:29

And Keanu Reeves is not in too many video

1:06:31

games, so he's not right used too much

1:06:34

But I for some reason he

1:06:35

just did a good job in that I

1:06:37

Like Keanu Reeves. I think he's great as

1:06:40

neo. It's he's funny in Bill and Ted

1:06:43

But I just I was like I just don't see

1:06:46

the point of bringing in celebrities like

1:06:49

I don't know the time

1:06:50

Typically would say that but if that was

1:06:52

like right at the beginning of when I was

1:06:54

kind of done with celebrities

1:06:56

I agree when I saw cyberpunk. I was like

1:06:58

I don't know about this with Keanu Reeves

1:06:59

But then he plays certain characters so

1:07:02

well, and he was an

1:07:03

anarchist essentially an anarchist

1:07:08

And just the way

1:07:10

Keanu Reeves played it

1:07:12

I think lended very well to that and I

1:07:13

would have been curious to

1:07:14

see if someone else would have

1:07:15

Been able to pull that off as well as he

1:07:17

did but once again, you know

1:07:21

I don't want him to be in every video

1:07:22

game either like that'd be really

1:07:24

annoying Mark Hamill

1:07:25

I think is a good one

1:07:27

though because he does the

1:07:29

He does the Joker and the Batman Arkham

1:07:31

series and he does a great job

1:07:34

See Mark Hamill

1:07:36

Okay, like he's Lou Skywalker, but he

1:07:39

disappears in his

1:07:41

other roles like he's like

1:07:42

you know

1:07:45

He's just a he's like he's a character

1:07:47

actor and and and he's a voice actor

1:07:50

Before I even think of him as Luke

1:07:52

Skywalker, so I'm cool with

1:07:54

Mark Hamill showing up anywhere

1:07:55

I don't care about that and he's also he

1:07:57

was also doing it with like Wing

1:07:58

Commander in the frickin early 90s

1:08:00

So like I'm I don't have a

1:08:02

problem with him. He's an og

1:08:03

He's an og and he does a lot of voice

1:08:06

acting where it's not

1:08:06

his face in there. Yes

1:08:08

So yeah, there's times where I could I

1:08:10

agree with that but it they're injecting

1:08:14

celebrities like this

1:08:16

More more and I am I really I've been

1:08:19

trying to this I've been stolen this

1:08:20

whole time to try to figure out who

1:08:22

I'm thinking of cuz I don't

1:08:27

Damn it Indiana Jones

1:08:30

No, Indiana Joe. So

1:08:31

the new Indiana Jones has

1:08:33

Is it's no a mill in north right or is it

1:08:36

Troy Baker? It's Troy Baker.

1:08:37

I think he does an amazing job

1:08:39

He's I mean that the thing with that I

1:08:43

actually kind of am on

1:08:44

board with that because

1:08:46

There is only Indiana Jones

1:08:48

right like it's not it's not

1:08:50

Harrison Ford he's he is Indiana Jones

1:08:53

and so you have to have

1:08:55

Indiana Jones look and sound

1:08:57

like him. I'm cool with that

1:08:59

especially because they're not bringing

1:09:01

in Harrison Ford and

1:09:02

then scanning him and then

1:09:04

De-aging him in the in the geometry and

1:09:06

the textures and shit

1:09:07

like it's I don't know

1:09:08

I like that I'm fine with that. He's such

1:09:11

a grumpy actor these days that he does a

1:09:14

good job in some stuff

1:09:15

But as Indiana Jones, I just think he's

1:09:17

it's just kind of over and

1:09:18

if you tried to voice act

1:09:19

Indiana Jones, I think it

1:09:21

would have not ended well. Yes

1:09:25

Yep, anyway, I don't know is there you

1:09:29

have someone in mind. Yes, I'm trying to

1:09:33

What does it's such a weird one

1:09:38

I

1:09:41

Usually let my brain doesn't work

1:09:42

sometimes and so I I look I work off of

1:09:47

Susie my wife and so she'll know what

1:09:50

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's just

1:09:52

there's a lot of celebrities being

1:09:53

injected into more and more

1:09:54

and I think it's because of

1:09:56

Fortnight which is fine

1:10:00

But I don't mind fortnight like if people

1:10:03

want to go that route go that route

1:10:05

I'm not gonna play it but I

1:10:07

I am a little worried about

1:10:09

Up and coming dogs and up and coming

1:10:11

voice actors are gonna get replaced by

1:10:13

just more of the same

1:10:14

celebrities that already have more

1:10:16

Work than they need in my opinion. Like

1:10:18

yeah, I want a diversity and I don't want

1:10:21

companies to play it safe by just

1:10:23

Utilizing the same, you know dozen

1:10:28

Actors and where voice actors need roles

1:10:31

to right? That's my my thing. Well, um

1:10:35

what?

1:10:39

Hellblade

1:10:40

Like she's an amazing actress right from

1:10:43

no blade. I can't remember her name

1:10:44

But like you if they were all just

1:10:47

getting getting like big celebrity names,

1:10:49

we would have never met that

1:10:52

Actress, you know

1:10:53

Truth. I don't know. I yeah video games.

1:10:57

I don't think we need to have more

1:10:59

celebrities. We need to get more

1:11:02

Folks undiscovered talent. I like that

1:11:06

All right, hunt showdown is what it is

1:11:08

hunt showdown had post Malone

1:11:11

That's what it is post Malone

1:11:13

has been in multiple games now

1:11:16

But there's a new one and we I think they

1:11:18

did an announcement when we

1:11:19

watched it for the game awards

1:11:22

but post Malone, yeah, which

1:11:25

He's fine. I it's that

1:11:27

he just loves the game

1:11:29

but

1:11:30

Yeah, I heard what we have a to had like

1:11:35

Ethan and Eli Klein from h3h3

1:11:37

You remember that and I even that I was

1:11:39

like in why paid in payday they had DLC

1:11:43

I did not know that that is

1:11:47

Bizarre what a bazero. Why would you add

1:11:50

h3h3 people into that?

1:11:53

I don't know like I

1:11:54

like h3 like they're funny

1:11:55

But like I was like dude that just

1:11:57

doesn't feel right to me

1:11:59

Like crazy, but yeah, they died through

1:12:03

them are actors either. I was like why

1:12:05

no, why are we doing this?

1:12:07

But that is a bizarre. That's

1:12:09

a bizarre choice. That's yeah

1:12:11

Okay, that that's a choice that that's

1:12:13

what I don't understand and even with the

1:12:15

post Malone. I'm like

1:12:18

He I don't know if he's a good enough

1:12:20

actor to but because it is hunt showdown

1:12:24

He might roll. Okay in that

1:12:26

because it is a very gritty game

1:12:28

Mm-hmm, but I haven't played it. I just

1:12:30

yeah, I know I've never

1:12:32

heard of hunt showdown

1:12:33

Hunt showdown is a really fun

1:12:36

get it's a you can do solo duel or or

1:12:42

or

1:12:43

A trio and you go in

1:12:45

and it's like back in 18

1:12:47

80 what is it 18 something?

1:12:50

1896 and has guns and it has

1:12:53

Monsters that you're essentially hunting

1:12:56

down, but you're in a squad and you have

1:12:58

to you can take out other squads

1:12:59

Then you have to take down the monster

1:13:01

and then you have to extract. It's an

1:13:03

extraction kind of shooter and

1:13:05

It's unique. It's fun

1:13:07

But it is definitely different. So yeah,

1:13:10

I don't need to go much

1:13:11

further into it. It is

1:13:13

unique the last thing

1:13:15

I'll say about any of this is

1:13:17

We need to go back to

1:13:18

a time when video games

1:13:21

Couldn't incorporate

1:13:23

the lifelike likenesses of

1:13:26

Celebrities because

1:13:27

that's when games were more fun

1:13:30

And that way we can just get

1:13:31

around this. Yeah, that's you

1:13:32

Anyway, like ps1 graphics from now or use

1:13:35

like a beat like use an

1:13:36

up and comer if you want

1:13:38

There's a couple up a comers that they'll

1:13:40

do sometimes do that

1:13:41

Yeah, video games were better when when

1:13:44

tails in in sonic adventure

1:13:46

was voiced by an actual child

1:13:47

Who was not an actor at all?

1:13:53

Do you remember that?

1:13:55

Yeah, I

1:13:57

think that's a good I think that's

1:13:59

There comes some labor law issues because

1:14:02

yeah child actors don't end up doing very

1:14:05

well in life. But yeah, yeah

1:14:09

No, it's I agree it's all interesting but

1:14:13

You're interested in what I'm an interest

1:14:15

in this next topic

1:14:15

though. Oh, yeah, me too

1:14:18

Game informer is back and they've hired

1:14:23

the entire team again and

1:14:26

I I mentioned double fine

1:14:29

Earlier, and I think if I'm wrong, I

1:14:32

think I'm right about this

1:14:34

The guy who founded double fine is one of

1:14:37

the sponsor like one of the guys behind

1:14:39

bringing this back. What's his name?

1:14:41

Oh, I don't remember his name. So I like

1:14:44

double. No. Yeah, I like I

1:14:46

like double fine quite a bit

1:14:48

It's owned by Microsoft

1:14:49

now though. So poo-poo

1:14:52

so

1:14:53

No audio just just going through this.

1:14:55

They're hiring the entire

1:14:57

team again is what they said and

1:15:00

I was sad when game for

1:15:01

a shutdown because like

1:15:03

games journalism is really important and

1:15:06

The fact that they've

1:15:07

been around for so long

1:15:07

I mean, I remember reading

1:15:08

game informer when I was a kid

1:15:10

I read game informer and PC

1:15:12

gaming or PC gamer and yep

1:15:15

Like and then I had like subscriptions

1:15:18

here and there to like PlayStation

1:15:22

underground and

1:15:24

Xbox whatever that

1:15:25

one was I had maximum PC

1:15:29

PC gamer which is now just incorporated

1:15:31

into PC gamer. Mm-hmm and

1:15:34

Game informer because partially because I

1:15:36

worked at GameStop. So I'm just I make

1:15:38

sure I always have a subscription

1:15:39

Yeah, I mean it's good stuff and I agree

1:15:42

with you with journalism stuff

1:15:43

like journalism period in the world is

1:15:45

dying and you know, it's unfortunate and

1:15:48

It leads to a lot of bad things now.

1:15:51

Luckily we're in the this

1:15:52

is the game industry. So

1:15:54

it's not as

1:15:57

It's not as

1:15:58

Consequential as the real world where

1:16:01

journalism is dying there, too. Mm-hmm,

1:16:04

but it still sucks

1:16:06

because you're gonna get

1:16:08

Less good takes on the industry on the

1:16:11

how the industry is going and kind of

1:16:13

calling out the bullshit of the industry

1:16:15

This is this is interesting. Have you

1:16:17

watched this video? I

1:16:20

Have not actually seen the video. I just

1:16:21

heard and read a little bit on this

1:16:25

Yeah, so essentially what

1:16:27

they're talking about here

1:16:28

I believe is called Godzilla are the the

1:16:31

company behind bringing this back and Tim

1:16:33

Schafer. That's his name

1:16:34

Tim Schafer is part of

1:16:36

Godzilla. There he is right there. Yep

1:16:38

Um, and so they're bringing this back and

1:16:41

it's gonna be an independent

1:16:43

Entity from Godzilla is not part of it

1:16:45

and they're going to be doing

1:16:48

the same kind of like content

1:16:50

production and the same like

1:16:54

Articles that they're writing for their

1:16:55

website, but they're also bringing back

1:16:57

the print magazine. Oh

1:17:01

Oh

1:17:01

Yeah

1:17:02

That's very exciting because I'm gonna

1:17:05

sign up for this like if I

1:17:07

have some disposable income

1:17:08

I think I might just do it just because I

1:17:11

like physical media.

1:17:12

I like print magazines

1:17:13

I think well as long as they're in my

1:17:16

wheelhouse, you know, and uh, I don't

1:17:18

know it's pretty it's

1:17:19

pretty cool to see I

1:17:21

Was I was bummed when they

1:17:23

announced they were closing. Yeah

1:17:25

There's like an end

1:17:26

to an era kind of thing

1:17:27

It was the same thing for me with maximum

1:17:29

PC when they went away.

1:17:30

I really like maximum PC

1:17:32

I still have some of the magazines from

1:17:34

them. Yeah, dude. I would love to work

1:17:36

for them. Honestly, like

1:17:38

Game informer. Yeah, man, like I

1:17:41

Love to write. I don't know if you've

1:17:43

seen my blog like I just I've been

1:17:45

blogging the heck out of my

1:17:48

My heart and soul

1:17:50

I don't I don't read blogs very much

1:17:53

these days. Yeah, well listen to things

1:17:56

You know why I'm such a huge

1:17:58

enthusiast for the feta verse

1:18:00

Is because I post something and the

1:18:03

people who follow me see it

1:18:06

Yeah, like I post I post my blog articles

1:18:09

and they get thousands of views

1:18:14

There you go, like I mean depending on

1:18:16

what I'm talking about

1:18:17

some people don't read it

1:18:18

but like I post my articles over there

1:18:20

and people like actually click it and

1:18:22

actually read it and

1:18:23

then I get comments and

1:18:26

And that's why I like

1:18:27

the feta verse so much

1:18:28

So okay, I post a video on YouTube and

1:18:31

it's rolling the effing dice man, like

1:18:33

whether anybody's gonna watch it at all

1:18:35

Yeah, I'll be honest. I really want a

1:18:38

competitor to YouTube to

1:18:39

pop up. Yeah pure tube. I

1:18:43

Know but it's so

1:18:43

expensive. It's really not

1:18:46

I mean it like it it's more expensive

1:18:48

than not having a peer tube yourself

1:18:51

But it's really not that bad, especially

1:18:53

if you can turn on some of

1:18:54

the bandwidth saving stuff

1:18:55

It's it's actually pretty great. Oh, I

1:18:58

need to look into it

1:18:59

But I just well, I just want to I don't

1:19:01

know if you want to post

1:19:02

your videos on my peer tube

1:19:03

I'll let you how's that? I

1:19:05

Need to come out of it. I've been very

1:19:07

yeah behind the scenes on other projects

1:19:10

lately and I need to get back into it

1:19:13

Yeah

1:19:14

Cuz it's fun. Oh

1:19:16

Dude, so much fun making videos

1:19:19

Yeah, dude, I don't know I'm very excited

1:19:21

about this though like Game Informer

1:19:23

again, like I think I've kind of like

1:19:26

played my hand that I don't really like

1:19:28

the modern game

1:19:29

industry very much like I'm

1:19:30

Boring into the retro stuff

1:19:33

But like it just it makes me happy that

1:19:34

Game Informer is back and

1:19:36

they're talking about cool games

1:19:38

Because there are

1:19:39

cool games that come out

1:19:41

recently, you know

1:19:45

Yeah, no there

1:19:48

There I think the game industry is just

1:19:51

morphing and it's getting bigger and

1:19:53

there's more for everyone

1:19:54

and I don't know why people

1:19:55

have an opinion and

1:19:57

This is not to throw anyone that's

1:19:59

listening or anyone that's under the bus

1:20:00

or anything like that

1:20:01

I just I think people have an opinions on

1:20:03

games that they really shouldn't have

1:20:04

opinions on because

1:20:06

they're not their type of games

1:20:06

It's not like game for you

1:20:08

so let other people enjoy it now if you

1:20:11

find a practice that is a

1:20:14

Nefarious like loot boxes you can you can

1:20:16

comment on that type of

1:20:17

stuff like that's fine

1:20:18

But like I feel like some games people

1:20:21

just have opinion on like that doesn't

1:20:22

sound like it's a game for you

1:20:23

Why do you care?

1:20:25

Yeah, for me like it doesn't criticism. I

1:20:28

don't care from

1:20:29

assessment screens typically

1:20:30

Yeah, I just so I'll still comment on it

1:20:33

sometimes but I'm not gonna be like hate

1:20:35

commenting on everyone's videos

1:20:37

Right

1:20:38

Like I'm more than happy to like

1:20:40

to like

1:20:42

Throw shade it like epic and stuff, but

1:20:45

like if you enjoy fortnight, I'm not

1:20:47

gonna crap on you for it

1:20:48

You know, I don't get it. Yeah, I don't I

1:20:51

really don't understand

1:20:53

Like I understand that people like

1:20:54

playing games online, but I don't

1:20:56

understand why people

1:20:57

like playing games online

1:20:58

I really don't get it, but I'm not gonna

1:21:00

like make fun of you for for doing that

1:21:02

You know like that's yeah, no you know

1:21:03

If you don't like seeing a practice by

1:21:06

like a game company or and you can make

1:21:08

you can still make fun of the game

1:21:09

that's fine, but I think some

1:21:11

people go a little too far and

1:21:13

Really make fun of people that play for

1:21:15

tonight. I'm like why they enjoy it like

1:21:18

it's just a game man, right?

1:21:20

I don't get why people watch football at

1:21:22

all. I don't get it. Yeah

1:21:25

Oh, see I love football. I don't yeah

1:21:30

I would much rather watch Starcraft 2 or

1:21:33

an eSport than I would a sport

1:21:35

well, I enjoyed basketball back in its

1:21:38

heyday when I feel like

1:21:39

My team the Jazz was doing

1:21:41

okay, but now they're yeah

1:21:43

so

1:21:45

Yep, hey person you want you there's an

1:21:48

actual really cool sport. I think you

1:21:50

might like it's called

1:21:51

competitive chase tag

1:21:52

Have I told you about this? No. Oh dude

1:21:56

Competitive chase tag.

1:21:57

There's a there's a small arena

1:22:01

with like tons of like

1:22:05

Like obstacles and stuff and

1:22:08

Two teams compete

1:22:10

One-on-one one one person versus one

1:22:13

person to to chase and

1:22:15

evade the other person right?

1:22:17

It's super cool. And it's like it's

1:22:19

there's like some really great rules and

1:22:21

it's basically like improvised parkour

1:22:24

Competitive mode. It's awesome. I love it

1:22:29

Anyway, well

1:22:31

Yeah, no, it's

1:22:34

huh

1:22:36

See the thing is I would play that I'm

1:22:38

much more into playing

1:22:39

sports than I am to watching

1:22:40

I don't like watching sports period. Yeah

1:22:43

Um

1:22:45

For the most part cuz

1:22:46

I just rather play him

1:22:47

I play I don't play him as much nowadays,

1:22:48

but I'd just rather play him

1:22:50

I also skateboarded a lot growing up too

1:22:52

and that's also my kind

1:22:53

of gem more. Okay weekend

1:22:58

Game of former being back is amazing. I

1:23:00

think is good. I think we

1:23:01

need more game journalism

1:23:03

That isn't just like I G and

1:23:05

PC gamer and a couple other ones

1:23:07

Yeah

1:23:07

And then being print is all I'm really

1:23:10

curious how much it's gonna cost because

1:23:12

I also am curious to pick one up

1:23:15

Yeah, a subscription just because it

1:23:18

sounds like they're

1:23:18

gonna be more independent

1:23:19

They're gonna be they've cut ties with

1:23:21

GameStop and if they are more independent

1:23:24

and can do really what they want

1:23:26

I am down for that. Yes, I agree

1:23:30

Japanese gaming is back on the rise

1:23:33

This is a high another high-tech

1:23:35

submitted story five out of eight major

1:23:38

companies reported record profits

1:23:40

In 2024 looks like or maybe

1:23:43

this quarter. I don't know

1:23:45

Five out of eight of japan's major

1:23:48

publicly traded triple-a gaming companies

1:23:50

have seen share prices reach all-time

1:23:52

highs in the past two months

1:23:56

People are divesting from the united

1:23:58

states. Yeah, it's really it's probably

1:24:01

partially what it is

1:24:02

Yeah

1:24:04

interesting

1:24:05

Sony nintendo kunami capcom and bandai

1:24:08

namco are the are the

1:24:10

major companies here

1:24:12

so

1:24:14

That's

1:24:15

Interesting because kunami like what have

1:24:17

they been coming out with that would

1:24:19

warrant such a bump.

1:24:20

I know capcom pachinko

1:24:23

Okay, there's that that's true capcom

1:24:27

Whether I know some people are are kind

1:24:30

of frustrated with them, but like they

1:24:31

have some pretty interesting

1:24:33

IPs yeah

1:24:36

but

1:24:37

Yeah, no, this is I think this is good

1:24:39

for I think they deserve it because I

1:24:42

think a lot of their

1:24:43

like especially like I

1:24:47

Think capcon sony those are like I really

1:24:49

like a lot of stuff they come

1:24:50

out with I think they've been

1:24:52

Doing better and and I think the japanese

1:24:56

triple-a market is

1:24:57

releasing better games these days

1:25:00

Um, but they also

1:25:02

release a lot of games. So yeah

1:25:05

Uh sega's not on this

1:25:07

list is sega publicly traded

1:25:10

um

1:25:11

I think

1:25:13

I don't know. I think they might be

1:25:14

Held by a different company now. I don't

1:25:17

know if they're they they

1:25:18

themselves are publicly traded

1:25:22

I'm gonna google it

1:25:24

But I i've lost track of

1:25:25

like who owns sega these days

1:25:27

sega sammy holdings

1:25:30

Oh, okay

1:25:32

interesting it was a merger in

1:25:34

2004 I guess all right

1:25:38

Okay, well there you go what I know

1:25:41

um

1:25:42

Cool. I mean this is this is pretty neat.

1:25:44

They they've got some uh

1:25:48

What is this kunami had

1:25:49

silent hill two driving silence

1:25:51

Which yeah, I mean, yeah, that does help.

1:25:54

Silent hill two was a uh a banger and I

1:25:57

haven't played it yet

1:25:57

But it does look good

1:25:59

Yeah, kunami had monster hunter wild

1:26:04

Um

1:26:06

Let's see

1:26:09

Yeah, yeah, I mean this is neat it's good

1:26:12

to see uh, you know in a in a

1:26:15

Era at least in the west where lots of

1:26:17

studios are closing and there's huge like

1:26:19

massive layoffs and stuff

1:26:22

It's good to see that the games industry

1:26:23

in japan is still going strong

1:26:26

And I I hope they're treating their

1:26:27

workers. Well, because sometimes it's a

1:26:29

mixed bag with that but right silksong

1:26:33

This is this is another high tech

1:26:35

Uh one of his special interests. I

1:26:38

actually really love holla night. It was

1:26:39

really fun. I'm a metroidvania

1:26:42

fan

1:26:43

And uh, apparently they

1:26:44

changed their copyright from 2019

1:26:49

to 2025

1:26:51

uh

1:26:53

And this is this is a huge deal because

1:26:55

people have been talking about how

1:26:56

silksong is never going to

1:26:57

come out and blah blah blah

1:26:59

so

1:27:00

This is this is a neat little update

1:27:03

It's like half-life three, you know, it's

1:27:05

a meme. No, no, it's

1:27:07

not. No, it's not not for us

1:27:09

But for no, I know

1:27:11

high tech for some folks

1:27:13

and and susie like uh

1:27:16

She my wife really

1:27:17

likes holla night. Yeah

1:27:20

It's really hard game, but she really she

1:27:22

would I think be really excited for

1:27:24

something like this. So yeah

1:27:26

I have a little grub

1:27:27

plushie from holla night

1:27:30

There you go. Do you

1:27:31

remember the the indie box?

1:27:34

It was like a they would ship you like

1:27:36

indie games on a little usb

1:27:39

stick

1:27:40

And it would come in a

1:27:41

box like a custom box

1:27:43

And uh, the one sounds

1:27:45

cool. It was it was neat

1:27:47

It was really cool and I had I

1:27:49

ordered a whole bunch of them

1:27:51

So I have like limited edition runs of a

1:27:52

bunch of indie games in physical

1:27:55

Boxes that is why I really like that

1:27:57

concept. Yeah, some of them came with um

1:28:02

Like limited run plushies or

1:28:04

other felis to go along with it

1:28:06

Uh, I have a super meat boy one. Um, but

1:28:09

the one that I that I was

1:28:10

most impressed with was uh,

1:28:13

Uh holla night. It was really nice

1:28:17

Nothing to do with this

1:28:18

but dead space had their uh,

1:28:21

So the the ea had a big sell on dead

1:28:23

space merge and I love dead space. So I

1:28:24

got like a dead space skateboard

1:28:26

Hell yeah, dude

1:28:28

That's awesome

1:28:29

I also I got a couple

1:28:31

other things but we don't

1:28:33

Good I I like collecting stuff. What's

1:28:35

that? This is from um axiom verge

1:28:39

It's very dusty, but this came in one in

1:28:41

my axiom verge limited edition box

1:28:44

Oh, and it's like this

1:28:45

really beautifully sculpted. Yeah

1:28:48

Uh thing it's really cool. That's the

1:28:51

I love collector's items that they do in

1:28:53

these things that uh

1:28:54

Like when a game releases or

1:28:56

even if it's on a merch store

1:28:57

Like if you make it

1:28:58

premium enough go for it

1:29:01

I don't like it when they do

1:29:02

it as a cash grab where you get

1:29:04

Not like the what was it? Was it a

1:29:06

fallout one where they got like a burlap

1:29:08

sack or something like that?

1:29:09

It wasn't much

1:29:10

It was like shittier than I think someone

1:29:13

had a moldy one and everything. Yeah

1:29:15

Oh, dude, like yeah the the cash grab

1:29:17

bullshit. I hate but like

1:29:20

Indie box was cool

1:29:21

Like they stopped doing it because nobody

1:29:23

like what they would do

1:29:24

is they would do like a big

1:29:25

Indie game that everybody wanted and then

1:29:27

they would do like a indie

1:29:29

game that nobody had heard of

1:29:30

And then and they people would be like

1:29:32

what what is this game?

1:29:34

We don't want that and nobody

1:29:35

would order the the next one

1:29:37

so then they'd go back to doing a big

1:29:38

game and then they'd come

1:29:39

out with a small one and

1:29:41

The way they were doing

1:29:42

it didn't seem sustainable

1:29:43

Yeah

1:29:44

But it sounds like you need to do all the

1:29:46

big ones and then once

1:29:47

A small one gets big enough or you do

1:29:49

like little micro ones of it and then you

1:29:51

can promote it as a you know

1:29:54

Yeah, unfortunately, that's just kind of

1:29:55

how the industry is. That's how

1:29:57

capitalism kind of works. You can yeah

1:29:59

I

1:30:00

Have too many flops, but

1:30:01

no, this is good. This is good

1:30:02

I mean, there's not a whole lot more we

1:30:04

can talk about it because it's just a

1:30:05

date change, but it's literally

1:30:08

Just a diff right here

1:30:10

But it's a we've had a couple of long

1:30:13

conversations about just

1:30:14

diffs on this podcast. So

1:30:16

This very promising look for

1:30:20

uh people of the hollow night

1:30:22

Yes, I am happy. I I love

1:30:24

hollow night. It was a good game

1:30:26

um

1:30:27

HP doesn't want windows on uh

1:30:30

on their steam deck competitors

1:30:32

Have you did you hear about this? I

1:30:34

talked about this on my um on my

1:30:37

show this week, uh

1:30:39

so according to uh

1:30:42

Gaming on linux. I saw them reporting on

1:30:44

this. Uh, apparently

1:30:47

the uh one of the product managers

1:30:51

Josephine tan at hp was on xda developers

1:30:56

and um

1:30:59

Josephine was complaining about how bad

1:31:02

of an experience windows is on handheld

1:31:06

and

1:31:07

Josephine was basically saying hey like

1:31:10

we'd love to do a handheld at hp

1:31:13

and uh

1:31:16

We but it's not going to have windows on

1:31:18

it if we did because I

1:31:19

don't know what to do with

1:31:20

If I don't like it, I don't know how to

1:31:23

do a product for it and that's she's

1:31:25

talking about windows there

1:31:28

Well, there's also that and they don't

1:31:30

have uh, I don't think that hp has a uh a

1:31:33

game client like the

1:31:36

um

1:31:38

Asus armory

1:31:40

So the aceus's armory system is like

1:31:42

really decent but they've

1:31:43

been working on it for years

1:31:45

I don't think hp has anything like that.

1:31:46

And so without armory and

1:31:49

if I was on windows like

1:31:52

Fuck that like i'm not using

1:31:54

Windows on a handheld without some type

1:31:56

of additional software

1:31:57

so I can see why like

1:32:00

all

1:32:02

H I don't want to hp handheld though. I

1:32:05

don't want to hp computer period

1:32:07

Well, okay. I there were I talked about

1:32:09

this on my on my news

1:32:11

video last uh yesterday

1:32:12

And there was a bunch of people who said

1:32:15

basically the same thing

1:32:15

like I don't the hp sucks

1:32:17

and I don't want

1:32:17

anything to do with them, but

1:32:20

When hp launches a product with window

1:32:22

with linux on it.

1:32:23

It's actually pretty good

1:32:25

Like okay, uh, I have the hp dev one

1:32:29

Um, they sent it to me to review it and

1:32:31

it's it's a linux laptop first. It

1:32:34

shipped with dude. It shipped with pop os

1:32:37

With it with pop. Okay

1:32:39

And I was like interesting for this i'm

1:32:41

here interesting choice. They worked with

1:32:44

Uh system 76 to be able to

1:32:46

distribute firmware updates

1:32:48

Through the built-in

1:32:50

pop os firmware updater

1:32:53

When they do linux they do it, right?

1:32:56

so

1:32:56

Uh, I know that they when they ship like

1:32:58

windows handhelds, they ship

1:33:00

it full of bloat and garbage

1:33:02

But like it's a business oriented. Yeah.

1:33:04

Yeah full business oriented

1:33:07

Right, but they but the people at hp who

1:33:10

give a shit about linux

1:33:13

Know how to make a

1:33:14

product with linux on it

1:33:16

And that's pretty cool

1:33:17

I say I don't want to hp handheld

1:33:19

But i'm always with any of these

1:33:21

companies always willing to be proven

1:33:23

wrong or be um surprised

1:33:25

I if they drop one and it's amazing sure

1:33:27

i'm i'm not gonna not get

1:33:29

it because it has hp on it

1:33:32

right, uh per se

1:33:33

uh, it's just

1:33:35

Yeah, I mean I want more I want more

1:33:38

competitors, but the

1:33:38

market's already kind of saturated

1:33:40

So i'm really curious to see

1:33:41

what they're gonna do with this

1:33:42

Well, here's the deal. This is the thing

1:33:44

that I don't quite

1:33:45

understand like what valves play is

1:33:48

um, yeah

1:33:50

like I mean valve makes

1:33:54

Like for example if hp

1:33:55

shipped a steam os powered handheld

1:33:59

Valve would make money off

1:34:00

of every sale of games off

1:34:04

other that system, right

1:34:06

um, so that's valves play

1:34:09

But I just don't see how

1:34:11

having a hyper saturated market

1:34:14

like a critically

1:34:15

saturated market makes sense

1:34:18

For handhelds like I

1:34:19

just valve does it the best

1:34:23

uh

1:34:24

and and honestly, I feel like the way

1:34:26

microsoft is going to enter the handheld

1:34:30

space is going to try to

1:34:33

Be so loud and bombastic

1:34:35

and oversaturate everything

1:34:38

That it's just going to drown out like

1:34:40

the quality stuff. Yeah,

1:34:42

like microsoft. Did I not say

1:34:45

Sorry, I was thinking mintell for some

1:34:46

reason. Okay. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No, no,

1:34:49

you said you said it

1:34:49

right. I was just like

1:34:51

I zoned

1:34:53

um

1:34:54

Sorry continue. What's your thought?

1:34:56

I mean, I don't I don't

1:34:58

remember exactly where I was going

1:34:59

but I just it like microsoft has always

1:35:01

had the strategy of like be

1:35:03

loud and be the only option and

1:35:06

um

1:35:08

And and right now it it is it's one of

1:35:11

the only options

1:35:12

except for the steam deck

1:35:15

You know

1:35:16

I don't know go ahead

1:35:17

My opinion with this whole thing is I

1:35:20

want competitors, but I want competitors

1:35:21

to think things through I want uniqueness

1:35:23

Yeah, the legion go while I didn't

1:35:26

approve like when I did my review of that

1:35:28

i'm like, not really for me because

1:35:31

windows

1:35:32

Because of windows like and their

1:35:34

software for windows sucked. Yes

1:35:37

but

1:35:39

I really like the device itself. I like

1:35:41

that. I had a bigger

1:35:41

screen. It was unique

1:35:43

Give us unique options that people want

1:35:47

And you'll do a little better and you'll

1:35:49

have a niche of the market

1:35:50

but

1:35:51

Like with the ally they came out first

1:35:54

and they kind of own the market of an

1:35:55

alternative to the steam

1:35:57

deck of a similar form factor

1:35:59

But for windows and it's

1:36:00

a little bit more powerful

1:36:01

They kind of own that now and other I

1:36:03

think other handhelds that have come out

1:36:05

that kind of compete with

1:36:05

that haven't done as well

1:36:06

just because

1:36:08

Asus

1:36:10

Got into the market much

1:36:11

quicker these other companies

1:36:12

I don't know what they were thinking or

1:36:14

what they were doing and why

1:36:15

they decided to come in so late

1:36:16

but a lot of these companies came in like

1:36:20

Years later than they needed to be like a

1:36:22

year or two later. And so

1:36:24

HP thinking about entering

1:36:26

it now is kind of a bizarre

1:36:28

Time, but if they do

1:36:29

it, right i'm down for it

1:36:32

but

1:36:34

If it's going to be similar to like if

1:36:35

it's going to run steamo lessons

1:36:36

It's going to be similar to the steam

1:36:37

deck. Why not just get the steam deck?

1:36:40

Unless it's that much more powerful

1:36:42

That's interesting. I the thing

1:36:45

Yeah, I think the point I was trying to

1:36:47

articulate and failed before

1:36:48

What you just said kind of informs this

1:36:56

Is How do I put this valve

1:36:58

selling the the

1:37:00

steam deck

1:37:02

Uh at a subsidized cost

1:37:04

They can recoup that right

1:37:06

by selling games on steam

1:37:09

I don't understand

1:37:11

how any company

1:37:13

Aside from valve or

1:37:15

microsoft can make money

1:37:18

selling

1:37:19

more, uh

1:37:21

handhelds because the cost you have to be

1:37:24

cost competitive with

1:37:27

What is currently one subsidized device?

1:37:30

or

1:37:31

Cost competitive with two when the x when

1:37:33

the microsoft xbox

1:37:34

handheld whatever comes out

1:37:36

And I just like and then and so you're

1:37:39

gonna have to cut costs somewhere to make

1:37:41

a cost competitive device

1:37:43

That's but then I just don't I just don't

1:37:45

get it. Like so there's two there's

1:37:47

There's kind of two things going on here

1:37:49

one. I think valve is

1:37:50

either lying or being

1:37:53

Untruthful, which I get the same thing. I

1:37:55

don't think they're losing money. I don't

1:37:56

think they've ever lost money

1:37:58

But business people will throw this out.

1:37:59

Like if you're not making enough margin

1:38:01

They will pretty much say they're losing

1:38:02

money because it's not really worth it

1:38:05

I think I just don't think like

1:38:07

especially now after a few years. I don't

1:38:09

think even though they've said it

1:38:10

I don't believe them.

1:38:11

Okay. Uh, yeah, I'm I

1:38:14

I'm not saying you're

1:38:16

lying either. No, no, no

1:38:17

This is my whole thought process when I

1:38:19

say subsidized device

1:38:21

They're like I think like the low-end

1:38:24

steam device, especially the original lcd

1:38:27

model. That was 64 gigabytes

1:38:30

That was there so that they could have

1:38:32

The the loss leader to get people to go

1:38:35

that looks like a great deal

1:38:36

But that's an even better deal and they

1:38:38

go up to the next one, right?

1:38:40

So I think they were definitely losing

1:38:42

money selling the 64

1:38:43

gigabyte version because

1:38:45

Like I just think that that was like to

1:38:47

get people in the door

1:38:49

So I mean I priced it out

1:38:51

Back when it first came out. I did a um a

1:38:53

stream and I priced it out and

1:38:55

and looked at parts and stuff

1:38:56

and now i'm not an expert in this but

1:38:59

I still don't think that was a loss

1:39:00

leader even though they said it was like

1:39:02

I said, I think they

1:39:04

um

1:39:05

Manushed things but you're right. They

1:39:07

they priced it at a low price like that

1:39:09

probably didn't make much

1:39:11

Because I still don't think they lost

1:39:12

they said they didn't they they lost

1:39:14

money. I still don't know

1:39:15

Um, but then again, they're also entering

1:39:17

the market in a very like

1:39:19

they're new to the market

1:39:20

So that is a little different asus and

1:39:22

all these other companies have been doing

1:39:23

this for decades. They have

1:39:26

much better margins and much better

1:39:28

Um

1:39:29

uh ties and even direct ties to

1:39:31

manufacturing that they probably can do

1:39:33

this cheaper than valve

1:39:35

So that could be that's kind of my second

1:39:37

point. That's could be what they're doing

1:39:39

Um people do forget this sometimes that

1:39:41

yeah, these companies

1:39:42

been doing this for decades

1:39:44

I I don't think

1:39:45

What val what gabe said was that pricing

1:39:48

the steam deck was painful?

1:39:50

I don't think they ever said that they

1:39:51

were losing money on it. Yeah,

1:39:53

but a lot of us inferred that

1:39:55

Um, but yeah, you're right. I think like

1:39:57

the fact that they ever lost money. No

1:40:00

And I still think they would even if the

1:40:02

lowest end version was losing

1:40:06

Just a handful of cents or whatever

1:40:09

They made it all back by selling the

1:40:11

actual by selling games. Yep. Um

1:40:14

But like I just there

1:40:16

isn't that like aftermarket

1:40:18

attachment thing for any other vendors

1:40:22

like none of these other

1:40:23

vendors are going to be making

1:40:24

a rotten cent from you after you have

1:40:27

bought the hardware and

1:40:30

even if they have like the deals with

1:40:33

manufacturers and they they you know

1:40:34

things are cheaper for them because they

1:40:36

of their volume like

1:40:39

It just doesn't seem to

1:40:40

make sense to me like like

1:40:43

Aeneo releases two or three devices a

1:40:46

year because they don't make

1:40:49

like

1:40:50

You know, they don't make the margins

1:40:52

after sale like it's all on the hardware

1:40:55

and I don't know it's that's

1:40:58

why hp sells you laptops with

1:41:01

Bloated ad like malvertizing wear on it,

1:41:04

you know, like because

1:41:05

it just doesn't make it

1:41:08

I don't know. I think that's what we've

1:41:09

been led to because they have a whole

1:41:13

Death make more and more every year. I

1:41:14

think that's what we've been led to

1:41:15

believe. I think they

1:41:17

do make money. It's just

1:41:19

The problem with these these margins is

1:41:21

if there's a major like let's say steam

1:41:23

deck. Let's say they had a

1:41:24

major failure in the in the

1:41:27

um

1:41:28

In steam decks that they

1:41:30

had to recall half of them

1:41:33

That would be a major

1:41:34

loss leader at that point

1:41:35

So the dangers of some of

1:41:38

these hardware releases are there

1:41:40

Meaning if there's enough

1:41:43

if you don't

1:41:45

Produce a good enough cheap product you

1:41:48

could end up losing a lot

1:41:49

of money in the long run. Um

1:41:53

From recalls and from

1:41:54

warranties and stuff like that

1:41:57

Yeah, I

1:42:00

I I think they're making

1:42:03

Enough money, but I

1:42:04

don't it's definitely not

1:42:06

Probably good margins. I wouldn't be

1:42:08

shocked. It was good

1:42:09

Accessories though if they started doing

1:42:11

a little more accessories, but what do

1:42:12

you like they'll need to start doing

1:42:15

much better job with accessorizing their

1:42:18

Devices, which I just

1:42:20

don't see them doing much like

1:42:21

Have a dock for that specializes and

1:42:23

looks the same as it have all these other

1:42:25

things and accessorize and

1:42:26

that's where you get your

1:42:27

Money typically and that's

1:42:28

where like with playstation

1:42:30

Xbox they get a lot of money from their

1:42:32

accessories and I don't know why these

1:42:35

other companies aren't doing that

1:42:36

I just don't think they have a good game

1:42:37

plan. I think that's

1:42:38

where you're I think, you know

1:42:39

Yeah, what are what are they doing here?

1:42:44

Right, I I don't know

1:42:47

Ayaneo has a huge chinese market

1:42:50

That they're surviving off of so I

1:42:52

thought they would have gone on there a

1:42:53

while ago, but I think

1:42:54

they have a pretty big

1:42:56

chinese market and we just get like the

1:42:59

Not the spillover, but like we

1:43:01

get access to those things too

1:43:03

Because they sell well

1:43:04

enough in china. Yeah

1:43:07

so

1:43:09

Yeah

1:43:11

It's interesting it will be interesting

1:43:13

to see hp enter the market if they are

1:43:15

right

1:43:17

uh, one thing I do want to note about

1:43:18

this story too is that when uh

1:43:21

Josephine tan here was asked if they'd be

1:43:24

interested in making a handheld running

1:43:26

steam os her response was a very quick

1:43:28

and very simple. Yes

1:43:30

Yeah

1:43:31

Which is I mean i'd like to see what they

1:43:34

come up with I don't I don't know if

1:43:36

they'd be able to execute

1:43:37

But again, I I do have more faith in in

1:43:39

their linux side of stuff

1:43:41

I think that they'd be able to do it

1:43:43

better than than like the regular

1:43:45

consumer handheld or business side. Um

1:43:50

Also fun fact this is uh from the way

1:43:53

back machine because this article no

1:43:55

longer exists on xda

1:43:57

Oh

1:43:58

Really? Yeah, so uh, maybe somebody got

1:44:01

in trouble for it or said something they

1:44:03

shouldn't have said to the

1:44:05

but uh

1:44:06

Very interesting, isn't it? Very very

1:44:08

interesting interesting

1:44:10

Yeah

1:44:11

All right. This is this is your story.

1:44:13

Tell tell me what's going on here

1:44:15

so

1:44:17

um

1:44:18

Apple's good. No, i'm just kidding

1:44:20

So google is

1:44:25

And the fear here is they're like they're

1:44:28

doing closed source development

1:44:30

of

1:44:31

android now

1:44:32

meaning

1:44:33

Up until it is ready to be released or

1:44:35

whenever they think they could there's a

1:44:38

lot of things that could change here

1:44:39

But we'll talk about that. But google is

1:44:42

making android development private

1:44:44

Um, but they will make the um, once they

1:44:48

release they will make the os

1:44:50

Open source is what's going on here. So

1:44:52

The releases are going to be open source,

1:44:54

which is at least that's that's good

1:44:55

enough typically for me. Um, I think

1:44:57

that's how unreal engine works

1:45:00

Um, maybe they might actually also

1:45:04

I don't know if they have closed source

1:45:05

development, but I do know that

1:45:08

You can get access to the source code for

1:45:11

epics, um unreal engine

1:45:14

It's not it's under a different license

1:45:16

Yeah, it's not but it it's it's source

1:45:18

available, but the development is going

1:45:20

on in private. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah

1:45:23

Which people are people fear google's

1:45:25

going to be doing

1:45:26

here with android, right?

1:45:29

And they've been shutting off

1:45:31

From I listen to a thing on this and

1:45:33

they've been shutting off more and more

1:45:34

features. So like their pixel phones have

1:45:37

Um software and features on

1:45:39

it that they do not open source

1:45:42

Um to stay competitive i'm

1:45:44

assuming and so here's the thing

1:45:46

I

1:45:48

Don't trust google

1:45:51

I use a closed source system. I use apple

1:45:53

stuff for business and a

1:45:55

lot of other things. So

1:45:56

I would be a hypocrite if i'm like, yeah,

1:45:58

I don't like this but

1:45:59

I don't

1:46:02

Like that they're

1:46:02

depending on a lot of third-party

1:46:05

Companies in the beginning and then they

1:46:07

started doing their own because the third

1:46:09

parties weren't doing well enough

1:46:10

and then they're just going to close it

1:46:12

off and eventually with fuchsia or

1:46:14

Who knows what?

1:46:17

Is it fuchsia whatever it is like their

1:46:19

next um, yeah their next

1:46:21

operating system i'm curious what?

1:46:25

They're going to be doing and I just

1:46:27

I know as a hardware developer or if I

1:46:31

was these other companies, I wouldn't be

1:46:32

trusting them at this point

1:46:33

I wouldn't be trusting them to not cancel

1:46:35

anything at this point. They've cancelled

1:46:36

so much stuff. Yep. Um

1:46:39

So

1:46:40

I'd rather just jump over to a closed

1:46:42

source system if it's going to go that way

1:46:42

Well, I mean

1:46:45

Yeah, I think we should go to like um

1:46:50

Sailfish that's where

1:46:51

we should be going like

1:46:53

Have you heard of sailfish? I i've heard

1:46:56

of it. I haven't used it. I haven't

1:46:58

looked into it too much. Yeah

1:46:59

I like selfish. Um, but

1:47:02

also I read that there's like a

1:47:05

A port of ganom to android

1:47:08

have you heard about that?

1:47:09

I was kind of interested

1:47:11

in checking that out, but

1:47:11

Anyway, yeah, google google sucks.

1:47:15

They're they're bad. They're they're

1:47:17

they're literally evil at this point

1:47:19

Um, they will be making like if they

1:47:22

follow the licensing for the linux

1:47:24

kernel, they have to make

1:47:25

Most of this stuff open

1:47:27

source at some point. Um

1:47:30

Making it fully private

1:47:32

This just seems like something that they

1:47:35

are doing out of desperation like they

1:47:37

they see the writing on the wall

1:47:38

And they're shaking down the couch

1:47:41

cushions for pennies, you know, like

1:47:44

that's what this feels like to me like

1:47:47

They realize that making this

1:47:48

making uh things open source

1:47:52

While it's the ethical

1:47:53

and the moral thing to do

1:47:55

It is not good for business for their

1:47:57

business the way they want to run it

1:48:00

Uh, and so they're

1:48:01

they're backpedaling on it

1:48:02

Um doesn't work very well for it if you

1:48:05

have to keep on making

1:48:06

short-term gains every year

1:48:09

Which is a stupid business

1:48:12

It's it's just stupid that we're in this

1:48:15

Realm of short-term gains that kind of

1:48:17

destroy long-term

1:48:19

viability of a product. But yes

1:48:21

Yeah

1:48:23

um

1:48:24

Like I I invest like my company's money

1:48:27

into open source, right? Like I I

1:48:30

sponsored developers

1:48:31

of projects that I use

1:48:33

Because it makes sense for my business to

1:48:36

it's ethical to that I rely on

1:48:37

Yeah, if you want something to survive

1:48:39

you got to fund it. Yes, exactly

1:48:42

um

1:48:43

And that's why like I don't ever want to

1:48:46

work for or be involved with publicly

1:48:48

traded companies because

1:48:49

like they just don't have

1:48:50

the the right motivations

1:48:53

Um, it's all about shareholder dividends

1:48:56

I definitely don't man.

1:48:58

It's a hard one. Yeah, I

1:49:02

Have I worked for I don't know if i've

1:49:04

ever worked for a publicly traded

1:49:06

But yeah, I worked for

1:49:08

home depot for a while

1:49:10

And they I guess game stop I did. Yeah,

1:49:12

but that wasn't yeah

1:49:13

before before the meme stock

1:49:17

So

1:49:18

Like okay, so i'm in the apple ecosystem

1:49:20

i'm in as close to off as

1:49:22

as it can be but it all works

1:49:24

So well together. Yeah, i'm okay doing

1:49:27

that but I am also

1:49:28

putting in backup plans

1:49:29

For any if anything

1:49:30

happens and I also I do do stuff

1:49:33

That's not I do a lot of stuff. That's

1:49:35

open source also, especially

1:49:37

on my apple devices. I just

1:49:41

I'm tired of like google canceling

1:49:42

things. I know

1:49:43

apple's not going to cancel

1:49:45

Uh, let's say the simple note app that I

1:49:47

use sometimes or the

1:49:48

reminders or certain things

1:49:49

I just know apple's not going to cancel

1:49:51

because they have a track

1:49:51

record of not doing that

1:49:53

And I can rely on it where with open

1:49:56

source I can rely on

1:49:57

that stuff to a point

1:49:59

But in my day to day nowadays, I just I

1:50:02

gotta have things that work

1:50:04

and work well enough

1:50:06

for

1:50:07

And i've mentioned so many different

1:50:09

times but for business oriented stuff

1:50:12

To uh, my my typical

1:50:14

Like emails and everything like that

1:50:17

It's nice. I've been i've been going to

1:50:18

um, the mail client on on ios and apple

1:50:22

The the here's the here's the plus of the

1:50:24

apple ecosystem now i'm

1:50:26

gonna show for them a little bit

1:50:27

And i've been doing this i've been I do

1:50:29

this every once in a while and then I get

1:50:30

mad and I get mad at apple but

1:50:33

I don't have ads. I don't have anything

1:50:36

going on with my mail

1:50:37

client. It is simple

1:50:39

It still has a lot of powerful stuff that

1:50:40

gmail has but it is simple

1:50:43

Where I go back to gmail

1:50:45

and i'm like, oh my gosh

1:50:46

Why is there so many tabs here and there

1:50:49

and I don't know dude gmail on

1:50:51

android is garbage. Oh my god

1:50:53

Yeah that too and it I feel like it did

1:50:57

On android or ios. Yeah, so

1:51:00

I'm just kind of over that now. Um and

1:51:04

Apple you when you buy their products

1:51:06

it's expensive, but they don't have ads

1:51:08

and they don't do tracking

1:51:11

on their

1:51:12

first party uh software

1:51:15

Um

1:51:16

and they're very direct

1:51:17

like if any app is going to

1:51:20

Do any type of tracking

1:51:20

you have to allow it to

1:51:23

so um

1:51:26

I'm not as big into

1:51:27

the privacy thing, but

1:51:29

nowadays I might be because

1:51:30

of the way trends are going in

1:51:34

this united states but uh

1:51:37

Let's just say if you're a green card

1:51:39

holder in the united states don't leave

1:51:40

right now because you

1:51:41

might not be coming back

1:51:43

um

1:51:44

And that that comes in the privacy.

1:51:46

That's the one that we

1:51:47

didn't put on here if

1:51:49

You go to the airport

1:51:51

Um, if you're flying back in they might

1:51:55

take your phone and just scan it nowadays

1:51:57

They've done that multiple times and

1:51:59

they've detained people that have said

1:52:01

anything that was contradictory to

1:52:04

um

1:52:05

Pal uh, palestinian or

1:52:07

anything like that. Uh, like or

1:52:10

Israel which is crazy. So i'm becoming

1:52:13

more and more of an of getting into that

1:52:15

maybe privacy things

1:52:17

right where

1:52:20

Be careful guys

1:52:21

And maybe it is time to really start

1:52:23

thinking about your privacy

1:52:24

And this is coming from someone who's

1:52:25

been very laxatasical

1:52:27

about it

1:52:28

So yeah

1:52:30

No, no, I mean I agree with

1:52:31

you like it's definitely worth

1:52:33

um

1:52:36

Thinking about you know, the the thing is

1:52:38

I don't trust google with

1:52:40

uh

1:52:41

Privacy stuff. I don't I don't

1:52:44

I don't completely distrust

1:52:46

apple like they at least have

1:52:49

uh

1:52:50

a marketing interest

1:52:51

in maintaining the the

1:52:54

veneer of privacy, right of being focused

1:52:57

on privacy so they they at

1:52:59

least have a little bit of like

1:53:00

Financial something nobody takes google

1:53:03

seriously when google's like oh we we

1:53:05

care about your

1:53:06

privacy. No, you fucking don't

1:53:08

but

1:53:08

Apple at least has to

1:53:10

pretend they do which they have

1:53:13

Yes, they've had leaks

1:53:14

They and they but they have a business on

1:53:16

this if every time they have issues their

1:53:18

stock will drop like yeah, they have

1:53:21

somewhat of a privacy

1:53:23

aspect to them that they promote right

1:53:25

part of the premium package

1:53:27

I commend them for that and especially

1:53:29

like going to bat against like the uk

1:53:32

Uh for their secret court thing court

1:53:35

order to like give them backdoor access

1:53:37

um

1:53:38

And they yeah, I I commend them for that

1:53:41

too. But like at the end of the day

1:53:45

At some point they can

1:53:47

just change their mind

1:53:49

Yep, and and then suddenly oh, we're not

1:53:52

going to go to bat and defend

1:53:54

Our customers rights because

1:53:57

it will cost us too much money

1:53:59

And that's why I like having my own

1:54:01

self-hosted open source stuff where I can

1:54:03

audit it and make sure

1:54:04

that it's actually working

1:54:05

For me and not for anything else

1:54:07

so

1:54:09

Yeah, that is what i'm doing right now is

1:54:11

i'm divesting stuff i'm using i'm gonna

1:54:12

be using a lot of apple stuff

1:54:14

But I like i'm gonna have backups

1:54:17

on my um

1:54:19

I'm gonna be creating a

1:54:19

home lab lab this year

1:54:22

partially for fun, you know

1:54:24

It's super fun and i'm gonna be

1:54:27

simplifying like my desktop like i'm

1:54:29

probably gonna get a a max studio

1:54:32

And start doing game development on that

1:54:34

and and just kind of having that be

1:54:36

my main system

1:54:39

And then run windows parallels if I need

1:54:40

to run windows stuff and all that because

1:54:42

it's running really well

1:54:42

I really really do like the mchip

1:54:45

It is amazing at how much they get

1:54:48

performance without having

1:54:49

to up wattage like nvidia

1:54:50

and i'm also kind of just over this

1:54:52

nvidia and even amd sometimes like

1:54:55

Um not be able to get graphics cards like

1:54:58

it's been a cluster fuck this year

1:55:00

uh like in last time too nvidia is just

1:55:03

like it feels like nvidia is just

1:55:06

Screwing us over and we're just allowing

1:55:07

it and i'm kind of just done with that.

1:55:09

So i'm going towards

1:55:12

Um, it won't be as powerful

1:55:14

but i'm going towards well

1:55:15

Mac studio is really good at doing like

1:55:18

video editing and some other stuff

1:55:20

um gaming i'm not as much but

1:55:24

I want to dive more into especially for

1:55:26

gaming into the linux world and having

1:55:29

fun there and so i'm

1:55:32

And i'm talking about those multiple

1:55:33

times. I want to keep

1:55:34

The things like if I if my flow my

1:55:37

workflow gets disrupted too much

1:55:38

That's why i've been making videos as

1:55:39

much because my windows

1:55:41

Machine started acting up big time and it

1:55:43

was not a hardware issue. It

1:55:45

was a it was a windows issue

1:55:47

And I had like I finally

1:55:49

because I kept on refreshing it

1:55:51

Off of the windows that was included on

1:55:53

it. I finally just did a full just delete

1:55:55

it and it seems to be running better now

1:55:59

But i'm just not gonna i'm once you

1:56:00

disrupt my flow enough i'm

1:56:02

done. Um, google did that

1:56:05

windows did that I have to have like

1:56:08

my um

1:56:10

I have to have things run well

1:56:12

For certain things i'm doing now when i'm

1:56:14

tinkering that's fine

1:56:15

with gaming. That's fine

1:56:16

I'm I can keep on

1:56:17

reinstalling games and everything but

1:56:19

I gotta have my flow work fine. Uh, well

1:56:22

for work stuff or else my

1:56:23

brain my adhd brain is going to

1:56:26

Self-destruct and so and it's it's hard

1:56:29

to like gardener like open source is is

1:56:31

fun. It's it's awesome

1:56:32

I love it. I've contributed

1:56:34

to open source stuff before

1:56:36

but

1:56:38

It's really hard to have like an open

1:56:40

source phone and have a lot of things

1:56:42

work on it really well because

1:56:44

It does take a little it takes a lot of

1:56:46

work to get that stuff in there

1:56:48

And so i'm just wondering

1:56:49

what the answer is going to be

1:56:51

for the future of like

1:56:53

Android if it's going to go closed source

1:56:55

I'm going to treat it and I think

1:56:56

everyone should treat

1:56:56

it that it's going to be

1:56:58

closed source in the

1:56:59

future in the sense of

1:57:01

android itself probably won't be and

1:57:02

there'll be um, maybe there'll be branch

1:57:05

like we can branch off and

1:57:06

um do uh clones of it, but

1:57:11

Expect continual updates to be moved over

1:57:14

to something else that is closed source

1:57:16

Yeah, so the the thing with with phones

1:57:18

particularly is that

1:57:21

With android too android like the core

1:57:25

operating system is open source

1:57:28

but

1:57:30

most of the drivers that you get for

1:57:33

Devices like this a smartphone are closed

1:57:36

source. They are binary blobs that have

1:57:38

been incorporated

1:57:39

into the linux kernel and

1:57:42

That has the benefit of

1:57:44

Like harder manufacturers actually

1:57:46

producing drivers for that hardware, but

1:57:50

it also has the drawback

1:57:51

That you can't study it. You can't

1:57:55

Figure out what's going on with it. You

1:57:56

can't fix issues yourself

1:57:57

And it also means that the that the

1:58:00

firmware of these drivers

1:58:01

or these devices is also

1:58:04

completely closed so

1:58:07

There aren't many great options in terms

1:58:09

of of like having a

1:58:11

truly open source phone

1:58:13

Uh, and a lot that's because there's a

1:58:15

lot of industry collusion

1:58:17

uh to keep things proprietary

1:58:20

Not the least of which is the mobile

1:58:22

operators like verizon won't allow you

1:58:26

To run a rooted phone on their network

1:58:28

anymore. Um, and it's like

1:58:31

Like I have two devices that I really

1:58:33

want to be using but I also

1:58:35

don't want to pay 130 a month

1:58:37

to atnt for shit service

1:58:41

Around here where I literally literally

1:58:43

if I wanted atnt here

1:58:45

I'd have to drive to the end of my

1:58:46

fucking street to make

1:58:47

a phone call, you know

1:58:49

What are you what's the price you're

1:58:50

willing to pay for open source gardener?

1:58:52

I think we're finding

1:58:53

out. That's the thing

1:58:54

I'm kidding. By the way. No, you're

1:58:56

absolutely right. It's like I I

1:58:58

am

1:59:00

It's like what is the price that oh there

1:59:02

is a premium to having privacy?

1:59:05

Uh to maintaining your privacy and that

1:59:07

sucks because if you're aware of all the

1:59:10

shit that's going down

1:59:11

uh

1:59:12

Like all of the actors that want your

1:59:14

information and i'm not even talking

1:59:16

about like governments,

1:59:17

right? Like this is this is um

1:59:20

Advertisers it's advertisers

1:59:22

It's your insurance companies. It's all

1:59:25

of these other things

1:59:25

The insurance one is that's another one

1:59:27

where i'm starting to get

1:59:28

more and more like okay, dude

1:59:30

Yeah, people people always, you know, you

1:59:32

talk about privacy and people make fun of

1:59:34

you. It's like, oh, yeah

1:59:35

Put your tinfoil hat

1:59:36

on it's like no, dude

1:59:37

Do you want your insurance premiums to to

1:59:40

to be jacked up on

1:59:41

you because your phone?

1:59:43

Says like the telemetry on your busted

1:59:46

ass phone says that you were driving

1:59:48

faster than you actually were

1:59:49

No, you don't want that and so like yeah,

1:59:52

it's this isn't paranoia

1:59:54

This is these are like actual things that

1:59:56

are actually happening

1:59:57

I mean, there's been a lot of even um

2:00:00

lawsuits over the years and stuff. Yeah.

2:00:02

No, I I hear you on this like I it's it's

2:00:05

unless we um

2:00:07

Legitulate this like unless we put laws

2:00:10

and regulations in yeah, um

2:00:13

You have to then put it into your light

2:00:15

into your own hands. It's

2:00:17

in your own hands. That's why

2:00:19

as much as um

2:00:22

You know, you might not like apple or

2:00:24

whatever like your options are

2:00:27

Android is a freaking clusterfuck of a

2:00:30

mess with privacy period. We know that

2:00:33

like there's been

2:00:33

multiple issues over the years

2:00:36

Apple has had some slip-ups

2:00:37

And this is how I see it either you have

2:00:40

an open source device

2:00:42

or apple

2:00:43

If you want at least a

2:00:44

little bit of privacy

2:00:46

I'm yeah

2:00:47

That's the option

2:00:48

There is a device that i'm excited about

2:00:51

and I can't remember the name of it, but

2:00:53

it's like not a smartphone

2:00:55

It's like an it's like a linux

2:00:57

computer. That's in your hand

2:01:01

And I wish I could

2:01:02

remember the name of it, but uh

2:01:05

But it has like a you can attach a rate

2:01:07

like a cell radio to it

2:01:09

And you can use it as a phone and i'm

2:01:12

thinking about doing that like

2:01:13

legitimately a ham radio

2:01:15

uh

2:01:16

phone

2:01:17

No, no, it'll look

2:01:18

legit like it's a legit 4g

2:01:20

Yeah, i'm i'm kidding

2:01:23

It's it will be interesting to see how we

2:01:24

go with all this. It is definitely one of

2:01:27

those things where right now

2:01:27

I don't think the average person

2:01:30

Yeah can

2:01:32

Even like it's really hard to do open

2:01:34

source and to debug this stuff or

2:01:36

especially an average person. I mean

2:01:37

dude

2:01:39

There's no way. I don't even know if I

2:01:40

can get my parents to go over to like

2:01:42

iPhone from an android device because

2:01:45

they're so embedded and

2:01:45

it's just easier for them

2:01:47

I don't know if I could get them to go

2:01:49

over to something like this. No, this is

2:01:51

not for normal people

2:01:53

Like this is for nerds dude, like like

2:01:55

this looks fun. It has interchangeable

2:01:58

Uh, yeah face plates on it

2:02:00

and this one's like a gpio

2:02:02

You know this one is a uh

2:02:05

You know this gamepad there's a keyboard

2:02:07

Um, and they actually just re like

2:02:09

redesigned how these connect

2:02:11

I generally try to steer clear of

2:02:14

kickstarter stuff now, but

2:02:15

like this this looks really neat

2:02:17

It's called the mecha comet for anyone

2:02:20

who's listening to the

2:02:21

thing instead of watching

2:02:22

Um the mecha comet and it's only 159

2:02:25

dollars. This is not going to actually

2:02:28

replace a smartphone

2:02:29

You're not going to be

2:02:30

able to get android apps on it

2:02:32

Yeah, it's a it's a it's a almost uh a

2:02:34

dumb phone or going back

2:02:36

in time. It feels like right

2:02:37

But it also will have like basic phone

2:02:40

functionality, you know

2:02:41

Like you could i'll bet you you could

2:02:43

probably run signal on this and that's

2:02:45

really what I care about

2:02:47

Interesting. Yeah

2:02:49

so anyway

2:02:51

Yeah, that's my lecture on privacy today

2:02:54

I think it's important and i've always

2:02:55

been I've been one of those guys like

2:02:57

Your privacy's already especially if

2:03:00

you're an average person's already

2:03:01

compromised to a point. Oh, yeah, and

2:03:04

Either you either worry about it or don't

2:03:06

but expect

2:03:07

consequences. I guess the thing is

2:03:11

Yes, your privacy is already compromised,

2:03:13

especially if you

2:03:14

haven't been aware of it

2:03:15

But the industry is designed in such a

2:03:18

way that it requires it thrives on

2:03:21

A constant feed of fresh data and if you

2:03:25

don't true you're not providing that

2:03:27

Then you can quickly regain your privacy

2:03:30

Um, and this is something that I actually

2:03:33

teach a class about this

2:03:34

like I go around and teach

2:03:36

Like give this presentation. I have a

2:03:37

whole slide deck and everything

2:03:39

um, and I love teaching this class and

2:03:42

it's it's super rewarding because

2:03:45

People are interested in this and I get

2:03:47

to help them on this

2:03:49

journey and it's super fun

2:03:51

um

2:03:53

I

2:03:54

Yeah, you're definitely

2:03:55

the expert on this area

2:03:56

Because i've been one of those

2:03:58

lackadaisical people where

2:03:59

i'm like, it is what it is like

2:04:01

I don't have time for this i'd rather be

2:04:02

tinkering with something but

2:04:06

With the way the world's kind of going

2:04:08

right now and just being able to be

2:04:10

detained and have your phone searched

2:04:13

Right now is is this is happening to

2:04:16

average people. So

2:04:17

just be a little careful

2:04:19

like

2:04:20

Free speech isn't as

2:04:21

free as it used to be

2:04:22

Um, don't if you have

2:04:23

telegram delete that shit right now

2:04:25

Oh, yeah telegram is definitely like we

2:04:28

talked about that a few weeks

2:04:29

ago. Yeah, it's bad news bears

2:04:32

Dylan yeah 100%

2:04:35

But and I honestly I think

2:04:37

the best way to also see this is

2:04:39

Nothing is truly private

2:04:42

You just have layers

2:04:43

of privacy like meaning

2:04:46

person to person

2:04:48

Is almost as private as it

2:04:50

can get but you can still have

2:04:51

Especially back in the good old days of

2:04:53

like wiretaps and stuff

2:04:54

like that. There's still ways

2:04:58

Wiretaps not necessarily like but like

2:05:00

listening devices in the room

2:05:02

Don't be paranoid about that. Obviously,

2:05:03

but like well, I mean, maybe with your

2:05:05

phone. I don't know but

2:05:07

Just be careful with being the paranoid.

2:05:09

There's the there's the

2:05:09

Paranoid to lose your life kind of

2:05:11

paranoid where you just don't do anything

2:05:13

except for being paranoid and then

2:05:14

there's the paranoid of like

2:05:15

Maybe just watch a little bit of what

2:05:18

you're doing and see what you can do to

2:05:20

sure it up every day, right?

2:05:26

And

2:05:28

I would that I think that's probably I

2:05:33

think that's all the

2:05:33

stories we have right?

2:05:35

That is all the stories. I think um, let

2:05:38

me check one thing real quick

2:05:40

If you want a good

2:05:42

deal on a four terabyte

2:05:42

4 terabyte nvm drive,

2:05:45

uh, samsung 99 the 990 pro

2:05:48

Is on sell for 279 dollars

2:05:51

at amazon. Oh, really? So

2:05:53

I figured I'd throw that

2:05:55

out there. It's not a bad deal

2:05:57

um

2:05:58

For four terabytes, but it's not for it

2:06:01

is the full sized so it

2:06:03

won't fit into the steam deck

2:06:05

without modification

2:06:08

Um

2:06:10

Figure I just throw that out

2:06:13

Oh marvel's spider-man 2 loses steam deck

2:06:15

verified rating. This

2:06:16

is from uh, noah on st

2:06:19

Steam deck hq. So it's another

2:06:22

game that's losing its uh

2:06:26

Verified rating now, I don't know why

2:06:28

it's losing it but just interesting that

2:06:31

that's happening. Yeah

2:06:33

Um, I did want to mention

2:06:36

There's a comment from ben betton

2:06:39

4 506 on on youtube. Oh, okay. Ben said,

2:06:43

uh, I can't find this on apple podcast

2:06:47

um, and if you go to

2:06:49

Podcasts subscribe to me

2:06:52

You should see a link

2:06:53

to apple to apple podcast

2:06:56

Right here on the on the right side. If

2:06:59

you click on that, it'll take you right

2:07:01

to it. Oh my god. Did they remove us?

2:07:04

I'm let's see

2:07:06

The page you're

2:07:06

looking for can't be found

2:07:08

I

2:07:10

They might have

2:07:11

Um, we were on there. I had the link set

2:07:14

up and everything i'll get that fixed

2:07:17

That's a good call out. Yeah. Yeah

2:07:20

I was confident that we

2:07:21

were on there. All right

2:07:22

We we were at one point and I excited

2:07:25

pretty sure I was subscribed because I

2:07:26

use I use apple podcasts

2:07:29

and uh, yeah

2:07:31

Once again, it's just a cleaner interface

2:07:33

and doesn't have a bunch of other like

2:07:35

they're not data mining me

2:07:36

because they already paid

2:07:36

I already paid for the product. Right?

2:07:38

Okay. At least I I mean they're still

2:07:40

doing some telemetry, but

2:07:43

No, well i'll get that fixed and you'll

2:07:44

find a link on our page. Um

2:07:49

Yeah, no, thanks

2:07:50

Yeah, honestly those types of comments

2:07:52

are really helpful. Thank you. Yes

2:07:54

And if you guys want to leave a comment

2:07:56

We're available on youtube we're

2:07:58

available on the fetaverse check us out

2:08:01

um

2:08:02

Cool

2:08:04

So I think that's

2:08:04

pretty much everything man

2:08:06

What do you think that's it?

2:08:07

Let's wrap this up

2:08:08

Cool. Well, thank you guys all for

2:08:10

watching. Uh, we appreciate you being

2:08:12

here. We love spending time with you

2:08:13

uh

2:08:15

And with that said we'll

2:08:16

see you next week later guys