Welcome to Off the Console, the hottest

new podcast that's all about gaming, tech

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And today we're going to be talking about

CES and more CES

who's going to be at CES.

And much more.

My name is High Tech Low Life and I'm

with my co-hosts

James from Games Revealed,

as well as Gardener

Bryant from Gardener Bryant.

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And we'll start from that though.

How are you guys doing today?

Thanks for being here

with me, by the way.

Yeah, thanks.

Good to be here.

I'm glad to be back.

I was sick last week.

Yeah, I remember it was unfortunate.

Yeah.

I'm doing decent.

I'm knocking on wood.

I haven't been sick much

this year or this winter.

And it's refreshing.

I totally feel Gardener on that.

Yeah, I'm still kind

of recovering myself.

I was a, I like got super, like I was

kind of feeling kind of under the weather

when we last recorded and then like right

after we recorded, I

got like really sick.

So get the recording.

We did.

So what have you guys

been playing though?

James, what are you doing playing?

I've been playing the copium game.

I've been playing it so hard since, uh,

and we'll, we're going to talk about this

topic, but the hint of some maybe

half-life news coming this year.

I mean, a lot of people

are saying half-life three.

I'm still skeptical on that, but I am

playing that copium.

Honestly, that's what I

spent this week doing.

I was doing like deep dives into some of

the stuff and doing a video beyond that.

Uh, Indiana Jones, that's it.

That's it.

Those are the, those are

the games I've been playing.

How about you, Gardener?

Oh man.

I have been playing dome keeper.

Have you guys heard about this?

I think I have, but I haven't played it.

I haven't played it either.

Dome keeper is like,

uh, if you took like Mr.

Driller and dig dug and then put it into

like a, uh, like a sci-fi rogue like, um,

where it's also sort of, uh, you have to

like defend your dome

from, uh, from these

like monsters, like these waves of

monsters that come in and

you have to like dig down

underneath your dome, find resources, and

then use those resources to upgrade your

weapons, your jet pack, all your, all the

different things, dude, it is one of the

most addictive games I have ever played.

I have literally, I've been sick, so

that's been helpful to like, just invest

time into a game, but like, I could not

have found this game at a better time

because I've literally put like dozens of

hours into it in the last week.

Um, it is so much fun.

And it's, it sounds fun.

I'll have to check it out.

Yeah.

Same here.

After me, I've been

grinding the shadow blotch.

I've been trying to a hundred percent.

Nice.

And can you a hundred percent that?

You can.

I thought that game, you beat it by

crashing it like Tetris.

Well, yeah, that's technically the way

you like quote unquote beat.

I mean, you beat the game by reaching

anti eight and beating that.

And then you also like really beat the

game when you reach anti 39 and like,

uh, you start getting a, not a number of

issues, but not a number.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

So basically, is that like a real thing

or is that like the, the program

actually hitting the not a number?

Yeah.

It's the like, so the score requirement

hits not a number, nan, if you will.

And then, uh, and then, uh, what happens

afterwards is that, uh, you can reach

not, you can reach NAN infinite if you

have the right build, but it's not,

also, it's also not a number.

So it just doesn't work.

Is it, what are they,

what is Bellatra written in?

Lua.

Lua.

Oh, it's written in Lua.

Huh.

Interesting.

Yeah.

There's like not a number,

uh, error and stuff like that.

Or parsing is different

in different languages.

So you don't need to

dive into that boring stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the way you, the way you're supposed

to 100% as per the achievements is you're

supposed to be the gold stake, the

highest difficulty

with every single deck.

And then get a gold sticker with every

single, uh, joker in the game.

So you need to take like every single

joker in the game at some point and

be gold stick with it, which is really

difficult because some jokers are really

bad, like the basic jokers, like it gives

you plus four multiplier.

Yeah.

It was really bad.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

It's the joker system on that.

It's really cool.

I like it, but I still don't think it's

as hard as the game I'm playing.

I don't think anything is as hard as the game I'm playing.

Which is hoping for half-life three.

Nothing ever will.

How do you, how do you beat Copium?

Uh, you dive down, make a video on it

and, uh, pretend to not be crazy.

That's, that's how it is.

That's how you beat it.

It's just, as long as you're not in the,

like the, the crazy house or you end up

going like insane, I

think you're winning.

Hmm.

Well, I think the best way to beat Copium is to be like, you know,

beat Copium is to

look forward to tomorrow.

The technology of tomorrow today.

Seeing yes.

2025 is around the corner.

So James, I think we've talked about this

a couple of times, but have you decided

if you're going to see

yes or not this year?

So I was, I was eyeing over my retirement

fund thinking maybe I should, uh,

cash some of this to

go and I'll be honest.

I was, I was, I was close at times, not

the cash little thing, of course,

but cash a little bit.

Because, you know, Christmas just

happened, paid for a

bunch of stuff, got a

bunch of new things, didn't have the

budget at this point

to go, but I, so close.

If I was really thinking it through,

maybe like, if I did this way earlier, I

could have gone like, cause it would have

been better prices for hotel and

everything, everything's like

500 plus a night in that area.

Yeah.

So it's yeah.

So for those who don't know, um, see,

yes, is a trade show where a lot of tech

companies come together, they show off

their latest gadgets and other

technologies and whatnot.

And, you know, sometimes companies come

in with extremely prototyped prototypes.

Hopefully you get some investors and it's

not explicitly gaming.

Like there's a lot of companies that do

things on gaming, like robots and shit.

Robots are pretty cool.

Oh yeah.

I think a good way to think of it is

like, um, the game awards and some of the

other like E3 is for what games are, that

is what this is like, this is for

hardware, this is for technology, but it

can incorporate, you just wouldn't see

like a game announced at this unless

valve really wants to be, unless valve

really wants to be controversial, which I

am all for them being controversial.

But, uh, usually there's a lot of stuff

that's like, for example, Alienware,

one of the first, in my opinion, the

first like actual realized decent

designed, uh, handheld gaming device that

they never released was the, uh,

Alienware UFO was unveiled

at, um, at a CES like years ago.

And so oftentimes that's another thing

that's a little disappointing about E3

is that you'll see a lot of cool things

that never come to light.

Cause it's also a, it's for journalists

to come and like test the waters, right?

Or not for journalists, but for the

companies to come and test the

waters with journals that is so.

Yeah.

So who do we know is coming to CES?

We know of course Lenovo is coming to CES

supposedly with valve, but word

also has it this kind of bleeding to the

next topic valve themselves may be

preparing something big there too.

As per sadly, it's Bradley is a tweet.

So let's just make

this one mega CES topic.

Let's do it.

Yeah.

So from what I can see here, it looks

like they're setting up different

startup variants, like different startup

movie variants, you know, like this,

the steam deck boot screen.

Yeah.

I don't really know

what this is all about.

To me, I'm looking at the, the sadly it's

Bradley, uh, diff here.

And it looks like they're renaming the,

uh, the startup movies or the, the

emails for the startup movies.

And, uh, essentially it looks like the

default is going to be for like

OEM, uh, steam OS installs.

And then the deck blue and deck orange

are going to be, um, for

the LCD and LED models.

Um,

uh, I'm just curious

why this matters so much.

I really wish that they would for

developers like me, I'd love some like

behind the scenes explanations on some of

these, uh, diffs because like there's

an invalid state, what does that mean?

Why, why not just play

these are startup movies?

Like, why not just play it?

It might not look perfect.

So I'm assuming like screen ratios and

stuff like that kind

of come up with a play.

Right.

I'm going to guess that the invalid is

going to be like the, the, um, this is

just my guess, I have no idea, but I

think the invalid is the startup movie

when you launch big picture and then, um,

generic is going to be like the generic

steam OS boot up and then they're,

they're branding their own hardware with,

with the deck blue and

deck orange startup movies.

Yeah.

That sounds like it makes sense.

I mean, it's an enum, which means these

are just like types that they use

throughout the code, just as a, to give a

little bit of context for this.

So that's what enums are.

They're just a way to control naming and,

uh, and, and usually checks throughout

the code so that this will be potentially

exactly what you guys were talking about.

Um, checking to see if it's big picture

mode or maybe, maybe they'll be doing

something special for some of the, uh,

valve specific

devices with startup movies

and stuff.

So, so I will say the startup movie

aspect ratios, they're all 16 by 10 as

per usual, but of course we'll be seeing

some 16, we'll probably be seeing some

16 by nine devices running steam OS at

some point, so they had to figure out

what to do with that as well.

Yeah.

I think that's pretty simple, um, to

support with the way that they do it.

But yeah, I think it's

still good for them to check it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think the thing that they're doing with

the different aspect ratios, and I

could be wrong about this, but I believe

they're just doing like an object fit

for the video player, um, which just

crops the top and the bottom.

Um, but yeah, I mean, right now it's a,

it's a, it's a black video on a black

background for, for these generic

bootloader videos anyway.

So yeah.

Fun.

So did you guys ever, okay.

I have to ask because this is, this was a

fun part of the beginning of the steam

deck era, did you guys ever do any of the

custom boot boot, uh, boot videos?

I've done.

I've done some too, but I've been a

little lazy these days.

They're, they're awesome.

I, I have them a part of

one of the software pieces.

Like I build software for the deck.

I just haven't released in a while.

And so I'm revamping it, but I have like

a hundred plus of these that you can

install technically just through like

clicking a button, but, uh, before I had

a script that did it.

And so the, the, the four times of them

actually supporting it.

So it was always, this is a

fascinating stuff for me alone.

It's just this, uh, variant stuff of

like, why they're,

they're changing all the

stuff up and maybe there's some extra

special stuff that they're working on.

Yeah.

To make those variants different.

But yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm curious what this other

screenshot is for, um, the steam UI movie

steam OS suspend, uh, and steam was

suspend from the robber.

I'm curious what those are.

Do you see those?

So the suspicious, uh, steam was suspend

from the robber must be less state

that it gets into.

So yeah, there's a, there's like

animations or like movies that can, uh,

uh, there's a startup, there's a suspend.

So like when you press the button and the

deck goes to sleep, you can actually play

a movie, um, or play like a video.

And I don't know why they call movies.

It's a little weird, but yeah, it's like

an animation or a video.

And so the suspend with robber, I not

100% sure what that even would

entail, but I would assume it'd be a

state that the suspend

would probably get into.

That was maybe weird for them.

Um, speaking of boot animations, have you

seen the new one for the, uh, the winter

sale that just passed the one, the one

featuring the steam, uh, the steam cat

girl delivery girl?

I have not.

You should check it out.

But anyways, uh, speaking of which the

artist put out a note saying that that

was her, uh, lat that it was a fun time.

And unfortunately that was the last art

she'll be doing for, uh, valve.

That's unless unless they, uh, unless

they contact her again

or something like that.

But they could, they could, but it sounds

like the contract or at least

like it's, it's, it's done for now.

I think she did a great job.

I think so too.

Yeah.

I'd love to see more of it.

I really liked that's one of the things I

like about the steam cells as opposed

to other places is that it just seemed

like a fun, cozy place to be when you're

buying stuff, it just, it felt fun.

And I really appreciate that in today's

world of like, try to make things as

cheap as possible, and we're only looking

for the cheapest price, but also making

the seasonal fun sell.

I don't know.

I have, I find it fun.

Maybe my brain's broken

on that, but it's fun.

Yeah.

So, so back to CS, who else do you think

is going to be there too?

Cause I know, uh, retro game core is

definitely going to be there.

We'll have asked him about

what he saw at some point.

So can I add a quick note

with the throbber stuff?

Yes.

The robbers still is a loading icon.

I never call it this,

but it's a loading icon.

So when you see it spinning,

Oh, like when it's

like building up a game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I see.

I see.

So yeah.

And if you look above, there's also, um,

above the additions here, there's also

Oled suspend animation and Oled suspend

animation from throbber.

So I missed that when I asked the

question, but so it looks like they just

have like a generic steam

OS one that they're adding.

Yeah.

Um, which kind of reinforces my belief

that the generic is going to be just

a steam OS boot up icon.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

That makes a lot of sense.

So, I mean, everything leads towards

steam OS is coming for everything.

Like they're releasing steam OS.

Yeah.

Yep.

That, that'll be interesting.

So like, yeah, with the CES stuff, like

we, we know that there are like, there's

good rumors that Lenovo is going to be

releasing something there with valve

potentially being there and all that.

Do you think another handheld device

could be revealed at CES and maybe turn

the flip it around to where valve

actually might like, I don't know if we

can see if they actually have a booth,

but if they had a booth where they

partnered with a couple of different

companies like Lenovo and actually

that's where we're showcased.

I can see maybe MSI being there.

Cause that's where they showcase the MSI

claw at CES last year.

And, uh, I know Nvidia is definitely

going to be there because there's

something around the corner,

which we'll talk about later.

If they, if they did come out with, uh,

like if there was another company with

steam OS hardware, it would be

interesting to see if

they debuted like support for

anything other than AMD APUs, because

right now, as far as I understand it, uh,

they only support AMD, CPUs and GPUs on

steam OS from my understanding.

I definitely would not plan on them

supporting anything because they're

been so, um, cautious on releasing steam

OS, um, like the, the, the three version

three, um, I feel like they're so

cautious with that, that

I'd be shocked if they've

released it for anything beside, like if

they, let's say they partnered up with

Lenovo or MSI that did

release it for Intel.

I'm assuming AMD through this first

portion and then I could see them support

like Intel probably wouldn't be an easy

or wouldn't be a hard one for them to

support, but it's just because the AMD

architectures are so similar.

That's there.

There should be no reason why steam OS

shouldn't work on these other

devices, like enough, as long as the

drivers are installed, but I am curious.

They also with these changes going on,

these generic changes, could they also

lend towards other rumors that valve is

working with maybe other companies

were working on their own hardware for a

steam machine release?

Like could this also translate over to a

steam machine, not just a handheld?

Yeah, I think, yeah, I

think it's totally possible.

Um, yeah, I would, I would imagine just

because valve has special branding

for the LCD and the OLED that they would

also have some kind of special branding

for Fremont, whatever

that ends up being called.

Um, but yeah, I mean, making this system,

the boot up movies and whatever more

robust and able to support so many

variations, I think that it makes sense

that they would, uh, Release Fremont and

have it be its own branded thing.

Do you think so in the future with these

diffs, you think that like in these

enums, you think we'd see a Fremont style

label, like whatever gold or whatever.

I don't know.

I don't know why they do the naming

convention they do, but so you'd probably

say that's maybe just credit as maybe

Fremont being announced at this and it's

just more maybe could be a steam machine.

Just it would be a third party, not like

a Fremont because I think three months

it's supposed to be first party, right?

Like valves on hardware.

My, from my understanding valve is

working with the same

manufacturing partner that

they did with the, uh, with

the steam deck for Fremont.

Um, and I would imagine when we see diffs

like this for another, uh, type of

hardware, we would, uh, that's when we

would expect to see Fremont debuted

some sometime soon.

It's quantum people, right?

Is it quantum?

I think it was.

Quanta.

Quanta.

Quanta.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Like, like, at least I

know that for the LCD.

I don't know if it's the same for the

OLED, but I mean, it probably is.

Right.

I would imagine.

Um, yeah.

Quantum.

You said quantum computing and I was

like, Oh, here we go with a black Mesa.

Uh, you just triggered me on like

half-life always has to be innovative.

Every time it releases, it's like quantum

computing confirmed this year.

It's coming out this year.

Half-life is going to be the first game

to support quantum computing.

That's where my mind, I'm sorry.

I couldn't imagine that.

Let's crit.

One thing that I want to mention is, have

you guys noticed that, uh, it's blue

for LCD and it's, uh, uh, orange for L

uh, LED, which are the color of portals.

Oh,

oh, no.

Oh my God.

Half-life or I'm sorry.

Portal three confirmed.

What's all three confirmed portal here.

First, bro.

Portal three needs to have three portals.

Three.

Don't like the portals, dude.

Portal three.

Oh man.

That's my number one, most winning game.

Is it?

I love portal.

I had it's half-life for me, but then

portal is really close.

It's just up until very recently portal

was my most played game on steam.

Portal two.

I'm sorry.

Portal two is really good.

They did a fantastic job with the story.

Like it's, it's a fun ride.

Did I hope one day we'll get, uh, we'll

get portal three or half-life three for

the matter.

I think we will.

Honestly, I think, no, I think we, I

think we're going to, well, I don't

know if they'll be called three.

Like you could argue that

half-life Alex is half-life three.

Yeah.

And they're just trolling us.

Like it will probably be half-life four

that comes out this year.

And they're just like, Hey, sorry guys.

Half-life Alex is half-life three.

We just wanted to troll you guys.

And I'd be down with that.

Cause I could see Gabe doing that.

He gets really frustrated with people

asking you when, when

half-life three's out.

And I know that he's like, if someone

else says it again, I

know half-life three.

That could have been his

promise was half-life Alex.

Sorry.

My, my conspiracy has been on this week.

So how about half-life X?

Would you prefer it be called half-life

three or half-life X?

Well, that's half-life ten.

I get one.

Yeah, I'd do right.

If we're going off of

apples, maybe convention.

I don't care.

Half-life X one, then half-life X two.

Look, I prefer to call

it half-life Twitter.

Okay.

Oh my gosh.

Half-life.

Shoulder.

Um, yeah.

So I don't, I don't care.

I think the evidence points that like

Left 4 Dead X was a

code name for Left 4 Dead 3

before they canceled it.

So it sounds like it might be a way that

they code name things, um, sort of.

Why did they, uh, cancel Left 4 Dead 3?

Um, they probably just didn't

feel like it was fun enough.

Uh, they could also put

it on the back burner.

Maybe they morphed it

into a different game.

They do that.

Like valve is a very weird company when

it comes to development.

Which I love.

So that doesn't mean half-life or, uh,

Left 4 Dead 3 could not happen.

It's just, they didn't think

it was worth it at the time.

So they canceled it.

Is one of them.

That was just, that was the era of valve,

like just canceling everything too.

Like, I mean, after Dota 2, right?

Like it was just, there

was nothing for a long time.

I think they did release one, uh, card

game that did really poorly too.

And I don't think that helped.

So they released something

that probably didn't help.

It's almost, you can almost see valve as

like a person in its own self.

Like they did really well

the first, uh, two games.

Then they had some expansions in both

half-life and half-life too.

That just did okay.

Even though they're very

iconic, they just did okay.

And that might've caused some self doubt.

And that's why, um, portal one happened

because we're going into

deep dive territory here.

Portal one happened because it was, um,

essentially a tech demo from a college

student that was applying or something

like that, some along those lines.

So they brought it on, finished it.

And then portal two came from that.

So, and they do iterative

stuff really fast like that.

So if they do really well with the first

one, they have a lot of ideas for

the second one that they get out.

And so once like left for dead and portal

was out, they kind of fumbled around.

And I think they kind of

had lost some self-confidence.

That's what it sounds like.

Um, and so that's why I think we're

starting to see some of that

self-confidence come back.

Yeah.

They also didn't need to release new

games for a while, but you know,

they still don't know.

I don't think that's, I don't think

that's how they play though.

That's the thing they, if, if they were

like, that's what makes them interesting.

And they still do capitalistic things

that are kind of annoying sometimes.

Right.

We talked about that last week with the,

the whole gambling thing where

they can maybe squash that more.

But internally, we don't know exactly how

much of that's being

run by who and whatnot.

So if they, if there were like a lot of

other game companies or companies, they

would just stop making games and just

would have stuck with one or two live

act or live service and steam and they

wouldn't, but so I, there's a lot of

passion and you can

see it with a game too.

There's a lot of, they, he didn't need to

quit Microsoft and do valve him and his

co-founder, like they

didn't need to do that.

So I think that's rooted in the whole

company's like mantra and hopefully

that doesn't go away anytime soon.

So we'll see.

Valve is one of those companies that you

can never predict

what they're going to do.

Like, no, I don't think like not even

like five years ago, we wouldn't have, we

wouldn't have ever predicted that valve

would make a PC handheld and not

actually make that market viable.

Right.

Yeah.

Like no one would have

ever seen that coming.

And yeah, they killed it.

No steam machine was

another thing that caused them.

I think some hesitation too.

Like I think they lost a lot of

confidence in the early 2010s.

And so, um, but luckily they didn't give

up and kind of more, like they kept on

going and yeah, I mean, it's been a

decade long endeavor

for them to like make

Linux viable for gaming, like no offense.

Carter.

I know you've been following Linux and

getting for like decades now, but like,

I think you understand

where I'm coming from, right?

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I was, so I started my channel

like, uh, just after valve announced the

steam machines and, uh, because I was

really, I loved the idea.

I was like, and I had been a Linux gamer

for years at that point before that.

Uh, and so I was like, totally gung ho.

And, uh, and then they didn't really do

very well, but there were still

a ton of games to talk about.

So, uh, I don't know.

I'm not going to take credit for valve

coming back to Linux gaming.

They never really left.

They've been the driving force, but like,

dude, I mean, it was, it was rough

there between steam machines and proton.

It was really rough.

It was, it was very, it was

an uncertain time for sure.

Now you say you play games on one X, but

we saw what you played last year.

It was not on Linux.

I know it wasn't.

I know.

I know.

I'm, I'm, I'm messing with.

No, no, it literally like, that was the

most weird year, like, because I was

developing dudelings and God, I haven't

had any time to play games, but.

But thankfully, uh, steam, uh, the steam

deck counts as Linux gaming.

So it does.

It does.

So I'm guessing I just about.

Oh yeah.

So I do, I do want to ask one

more thing with the CES stuff.

And let's get in the

Nvidia with the CES stuff.

Cause I'm really curious if you guys

think anything, like, is

there any predictions that you have of

anything else that's

going to occur there?

Um, because there's, this is a plethora

of like stuff that could happen this

year at this CES, um, and what's going to

be like, I think handhelds are going to

be taking a pretty big, like, cause it's

just so many companies are, are treating

handhelds more as a viable option.

Right.

Definitely a lot of AI, lots of AI.

I, I love AI.

I hate how AI is marketed.

Some kind of AI handheld just for you.

So here's the thing, stop putting AI into

the name of the chipsets.

Like we know that you have, um, uh, API

or you have cores on

there for AI specific

dedicated AI cores, stop

putting AI into the titles.

We don't need that.

But that's for the

dumbasses that don't know.

And that they want AI in their machines.

There is, there's no way a dumbass is

going to understand the naming

convention of an AMD APU anyways.

Like you look at that thing, that's going

to make them more confused and probably

like, um, I'm not going to go on that.

It's, it's bad.

Like there's, I don't, I

don't, I get it, but yeah.

It's marketing jargon for it.

Probably develop, uh, for their, um,

investors and stuff like that.

Probably because anything that's an AI

name, but they could still have named it

the Radeon AI or something like they

could have put it into the actual, um,

line name instead of at the very end of

like some weird special chip set.

They need to come up with their own like

branding for AI powered stuff.

Right.

And so like there's Radeon for, for their

GPUs and they should have something

like, I don't know, like show Dan or

something for their AI powered stuff.

Um, I don't know if you get that

reference, but it's the AI from a,

uh, uh, uh, system shock.

It's like AI.

Yeah.

That's right.

Damn.

Yeah.

Speaking of AI and video.

So some prices have been revealed for

Nvidia more specifically in China, but

these aren't completely off the mark

compared to, uh,

compared to what's in the

US. So the RTX 50 90 has been listed for

18,999 you watch Chinese Yuan,

which is around $2,600 or, or the 50

eighties blue been listed for 9,999 Yuan,

which is about 13, uh, $1,350.

All right.

Here's the marketing pitch for the, the,

uh, uh, was it the 50 90?

Right.

There's an announcer comes on the screen.

And they're like, Hey, Eddie, you want to

double or triple the price of your PC

build by a 50 90 you want some more AI

and quadruple your,

your power budget too.

I'll be honest.

It doesn't say RTX AI on it.

I'm not buying it.

I think they're going to fail.

I have a feeling that they're going to

fail at this fucking Adam Jensen.

You dumb ass.

Don't you know that AI

is the way of the future?

Buy it, buy it right now.

That's why they're valued so high is, is

because of like, um, both AI and also

their other like branding, like gaming is

the one that at least I think valuable

revenues that they have, which is crazy

that they would price hike it like this.

So I think you think you, they would

lower it and have, because the demand

would be there, but they, and they see

the demands there and I think they could.

Match it with production.

So like this whole like supply and demand

doesn't make sense for me and Nvidia

keeps on going higher when it's supposed

to even out and go lower as it's, I don't

think it's that much more

expensive for them to make.

I think there really is just a.

Agreed take, which makes me

even more off put by Nvidia.

And I'm going to probably

be doing more AMD builds.

I just really don't like seeing this.

Like I don't see, there will be people

that will probably, because they're

doing, you know, if it's $2,600, which I

read somewhere else is 22, but, um, even

if it's $2,600, so people will buy this

and we'll offset some of the people not

buying it, but I don't know if it's

actually going to be enough as opposed

to if they drop the price.

So I will say this China does employ that

a 13% that so after adjustments, the

prices of the 20, 58, it'll be around

$1,200 and the 59 it'll be $2,200, which

I've said before, but it's still like a

30% hike for the, uh, for the 90 series,

uh, 92, 18 years.

Expect that to be drastically higher.

Cause, um, there's going to be an

American VAD on that or not a VAD.

I wish it was a VAD.

VADs actually have a value added.

It's a value added tax as opposed to, um,

we're going to be having tariffs most

likely and it, and it definitely looks

like there's more doubling down from a

certain amount of registration that's

going to be taken over soon.

So 2025 is going to be a very interesting

year with hardware like this.

And prices for everything to be honest.

Oh yeah.

If, if you're really, if

you're, here's my biggest advice.

If you planning on buying any type of

hardware and you want to save some decent

amount of money, it just might be worth

getting now as opposed to waiting.

It, cause if those tariffs do go through,

you're going to be paying a huge price.

Like this is that probably going to be

one of the biggest price hikes we've

seen potentially on this

type of hardware in history.

So if it goes through, I'm skeptical.

Fucking it.

No.

Now to play the devil's advocate for just

a moment, here's a question.

I believe high tech, maybe two episodes

ago complained that

they have artificially

limited the amount of VRAM on their, on

their 40 series cards.

And even, I think

they're 30 series cards.

Is that right?

For the six, for like

the 62 GPs, I believe.

Yes.

Okay.

Are these the 50 90s here?

Are they going to have, uh, more VRAM

than other than the previous cards?

So I believe these are supposed to have

32 gigs of DD, GDD or seven RAM.

Wow.

So that 32 is like the highest I've heard

it like, isn't it like 24 is the highest

I've heard it before, unless there's a

card I'm mistaken that has higher, like,

so the, the, the 40 90 and I think the 40

90 has a 24 gig, doesn't it?

And then the 30 90, which we have, uh, we

have, I think, Carter is right.

I have a 30 90.

Yeah.

Which has what 20 or 80?

I don't, I don't know how

much VRAM has, but yeah.

It has, uh, what,

where I have 12 gigabytes.

Oh, I have the bigger one then.

Um, they have two different models.

That's another thing that's really stupid

is that they allow for

different VRAM model.

Sorry.

You have a 30 80.

That's right.

So the 30 80 also has two models too.

I think the 30 90 potentially has two

VRAM models, but, um,

this, like usually the,

the, the 90 series has

always had plenty of RAM.

So that's never been the problem.

Even with the 30 90, like with the one I

have, I shouldn't have too many issues

with a lot of heavy, uh, textured games,

like, uh, large textured games.

Uh, but the 60 series, like their mid

range has always been

like, they've really neutered

it a lot and it's really infuriating

because it really just

ultimately what it does is

it causes other, like they're forcing

upgrades every few, like few years.

Because you almost have to with the way

that textures are a big way to improve,

uh, the way games look.

And unfortunately, if you throw more or,

uh, uncompressed in

the more lifelike they

look, they're going to be, they're going

to take up more VRAM.

So I.

Yeah.

So to add to that

garden, yeah, I did say that.

And they're doing it again with the 50

60, the 50 60 is going to have eight gigs

of VRAM, much like the 40 60.

And I believe 30 60 had like 12 gigs.

If I'm not mistaken, let me look at that.

Actually.

30 60.

They also had different variants too.

Like, um, a lot of these, even mid range

cards had like, you'd have to look for

the VRAM I'd always recommend

anyone that buys a video card.

I'd recommend to get

as much VRAM as you can.

Yeah.

That might not be as

big a deal soon, but yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So the 30 60 had 12 gigs of VRAM.

So I don't know why they cut down on the

VRAM for the 60 series.

Probably just probably the like quote

unquote save a buck, but really just to

push you to buy the more expensive units

or something like that.

Word has to be 50 60 TI.

We'll have 16 gigs of VRAM.

But again, why do they

even bother with a TI?

It's, it's fucking stupid.

Yeah.

And now like, and I'm just asking, I

don't, I don't know the question, the

answer, uh, the, the jump in, um, VRAM

doesn't come close to justifying

the jump in price, right?

Yeah.

No.

Also, also with landing the, the, the 50

70 is supposed to have 12 gigs of VRAM.

Come compared to the 50 60 T I's 16 gigs

of VRAM and the 50 70 TI is supposed

to have 16 gigs as well.

It's just gouging at this point.

Right.

I mean, this is ridiculous.

The worst part is that AM worst part is

that AMD basically does nothing to oppose

this.

They're, they're happy to watch Nvidia

hike the prices up because that means

they can hike it up too, even though they

may not even justify it.

Not that Nvidia did or

anything, but like AMD even less so.

Maybe that's why we need Intel to really,

maybe Intel is our saviors on this.

Like their, their GPS are getting better.

I've heard great things of

their new GPU, but for the price.

Yes.

But then again, they're pretty big too.

I don't know.

I feel like there's going to be some

price fixing lawsuits coming out.

Um, on some of the stuff

personally can't happen soon enough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, monitors went through that a few

years ago where they

had some major lawsuits

against them because there was price

price fiction fixing going on, which is

companies, um, talking amongst each other

and artificially making, um, the cost go

up when they doesn't need to.

It that's, that's price fixing.

So.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't, I mean, Andy and Nvidia on the

outside have a lot of competitive,

mean spirited battles in the past.

I don't know if you guys have seen, like

they've said, they've done some pretty

nasty things, but, uh,

behind closed doors, who knows?

Um, I mean, they've been sued in the past

for price facing both of them.

They've been sued for colluding.

Yeah, they have.

So like what better PR stunt than to make

it look like you hate each other.

And then just price

fixed behind the scenes.

I definitely wouldn't say AMD is like a

saint with this, but I definitely trust

AMD a lot more than I do Nvidia because

the CEO has had said very, very

specifically mean-spirited things about

both gamers and also the gamers are like

the GPU, the GPU market, and they don't,

because they don't make enough money

from it, I think they just don't care.

That they can price I could however they

want instead of being more competitive.

AMD or, uh, AMD or Nvidia.

Nvidia.

Yeah.

Fucking Nvidia.

But they do make good stuff.

I like their cards.

I really do.

I just, it's very off-putting to be, um,

taken advantage of and I don't like it.

Cause that's what it feels like.

Yeah.

And just the fact that like they have

had, they have like this, uh, history

of just being like just shitty to people

that don't make them a ton of money.

You know, like I don't way, way back in

the day, they like removed a bunch of

features from the Linux drivers so that

they were feature parody with windows.

Because there was like some driver, like,

I think they supported more monitors or

something on Linux

than they did on windows.

And they removed that because whatever,

like they didn't want to maintain it.

It was probably a Microsoft rep or

something like getting

that it was, there was

some closed doors stuff on that.

Yeah.

Guaranteed.

At least they have like the open source

stuff now for their drivers and the

kernel, which is good, but

there's still, I don't trust them.

They're behind.

Yeah, exactly.

Don't trust them.

And at the end of the day, I think this

is another reason why I like, I know some

people in the communities and I can't

remember what you

guys are stance are like

on FSR and they like these either frame

generation or machine learning

techniques.

I like them and I like them for multiple

reasons, but they can

be done very poorly.

But it could be, especially if we have an

open source, which I think AMD does more

open source, which is another reason I

kind of like AMD more.

So they tend to champion open source, but

that could be another way to combat some

of this stuff is how it is like using

those types of

technologies to not have to

buy the top dog, but

to buy the mid range.

When I was, when I first bought my, like

my first HD TV, I was

like, you know what?

I don't, I don't get it.

I don't understand this.

And then, cause I

only had an X-Box, right?

Like an original X-Box and the stuff,

most of the games that I played on there

didn't support much other

more than like four 80 P right.

And then I got a 360 and I connected it

and I was like, Oh, now I get HD.

Because there was the raw signal from the

console going right into the TV.

But now it's like, in order to get like a

raw signal at the native resolution, you

have to introduce this muddy, gross, like

AI upscaled image that I don't, I don't

personally like how FSR looks.

Um, and so that when, when I have, uh,

when I'm like playing games, I want it to

run at either the native resolution or if

it can't support running at the native

resolution fast enough, 10 ADP, and then

just upscale it that way.

I don't, I don't, I don't want to have a

game that's like AI upscaled.

I think it looks like

crap most of the time.

I think it, I completely

disagree to a point on that.

I think some games look really good with

FSR three, especially, and with some,

especially some of these newer ones, but

it really depends on the game.

It depends on how it's implemented and it

depends on, um, the certain

outputs and, and I think how greedy the

algorithm is set to.

Um, maybe I've played them on like the

most performance setting or something,

but I just don't like how

it looks most of the time.

I can tell.

Cause I agree with you.

Like it can look pretty bad at times, but

where I've played it, where it's more

set to visuals, it, it can actually

really help with the

fidelity with no cost to

performance, maybe even a decrease in

like your, or an increase in your FPS.

So I really think cyberpunk is one of

those ones where it has a, it's a blurred

line, it can look really crappy, or it

can make it look actually quite a bit

better, which is really cool.

Once again, though.

Um, and another reason for these frame

generation things is also up.

So the newer ones, what they do more than

quality is they actually increase our

frame rate, which can just make it more

pleasant experience, right?

Which those ones I haven't actually seen

as much, I don't know if you guys have

have noticed, but I haven't seen too much

of a degradation in quality, but the like

playing games at 60

frames is just as beautiful.

And so if I don't lose any quality and it

can up into 60, that's all I care about.

That's all, honestly, all I really care

about is not having my game skip around

and it looks well

enough, like good enough.

Like that's all I want for my steam deck.

So.

I haven't tried any of the frame

generation stuff yet.

I don't like the frame generation stuff.

It just looks too smeary.

A lot of the time it looks too smeary.

Honestly, nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

If it works like when you're in VR and it

glitches and it like, like slides the

image around.

No, no, that is.

That makes me sick.

Yeah.

That one is more of a, what is it called?

Sorry.

It's that's a little different.

What you probably want to do high tech

maybe is limit your FPS.

So you might want to adjust some of the

settings and then limit the FPS output

to be more stable at a lower, because if

it goes too high, you

could get it to blur

more.

I guess so you might want to.

Yeah, you might want to like, if it's on

the steam deck, you might want to limit

your FPS.

Don't get too greedy with that.

That's that's my opinion on it because

all it really does frame generation is it

just takes it can, you can kind of think

of it as doubling your FPS.

It just, it just takes the previous image

and kind of guesses a little bit how it's

going to be.

And then just fills them in between.

It's all really does.

It's not perfect, but for certain games

is I definitely

prefer it, but we don't, we

don't need to beat this horse anymore.

I think it's a, I think

it's a good technology.

I'm hoping that like, but then again,

it's very flawed and

but it's gotten better.

Like in the early days, it was garbage.

I'm very hopeful that it can maybe combat

some of these high prices though.

Cause if you want to be like sure out

like as good as

possible, like raw, like you

gardener, you're going to have to buy

like the best card

oftentimes, depending on if

you're playing, depending on what type of

game you're playing.

But you guys play more indie games though

that tend to not be as power hungry.

So you don't even really need oftentimes

this type of stuff

that we're talking about.

So I have a 30 80 in my PC that I think

I've might've played

like an hour or two of

games on, but I do, but I do enjoy the

occasional triple a game.

And, uh, I do like running my triple a

games at high

resolutions, high frame rates and

maximum graphical detail.

Sometimes I'm a PC gamer too.

Sometimes not in the

don't get it twisted.

I did definitely used to be chasing the

best, uh, fidelity that a game could do.

I like, okay.

If half-life three comes out, I

definitely probably would

be buying a new system to,

you know, gardener

understands buying a headset for that.

It's crazy for the half-life Alex, but I

might do that just cause there's certain

games that are so nostalgic that I'd have

to, but I'm starting to get to the point

where I'm like, I don't know

if I care so much about it.

We were getting to a place where things

look good enough at medium settings.

And that might be just

where I set for awhile.

If half-life three comes out and it

doesn't launch with

Fremont, I'm going to play it

on my steam deck and

I'm going to be fine.

I don't care.

I bet you that is going to

look great on the steam deck.

I bet you it's going to be like doom and

doom looks amazing on the steam deck.

It looks so good on the steam deck.

I've been able to, I've been able to turn

on ray tracing on a

steam deck and it works.

Yeah.

Have you guys tried it on a 4k TV?

Like from the resolution?

I have not.

I haven't needed.

Have I tried on, will it upscale?

So, uh, TVs have upscaling too kind of

built in, which helps, but it looked, I

can't remember if I

ran it at 4k on the TV.

I think I did.

I have to, I have to go back cause I have

videos of it, but even if it's not 4k,

but it upscales, it looked amazing.

I was shocked.

I was like, this looks

like it, if it was on my PS4.

Like maybe even better.

I was so amazed by that game.

I sorry.

It's just like, I will simp for that game

every day with how well

they balance the performance.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

It's a shame that no other developers do.

So speaking of, uh, valve and frame,

watch, do you think we'll see, do you

think we'll see the

Deckard or the frame at CES?

No.

Um, either.

No.

Maybe Deckard, but I doubt it.

Honestly, like, I doubt it.

The decker can't come soon enough.

Does valve even really do

anything at these shows?

I don't know if I've

ever seen them at CES.

I don't think they've been in CES.

I don't think they've been either, but

yeah, time to change it.

It's not like, it's not like they have

their own booth, right?

They're going to be there with Lenovo and

it's just going to be like one rep.

As far as I understand it.

Do we know that they're not

going to have the wrong booth?

I don't know that, but I haven't heard

that they're going to

have their own booth.

We would probably, yeah, you're right.

Like, I think we would, if we, if they

had their own booth and we knew it,

that'd be a massive story.

Yeah.

I would think they were gearing up for

something huge if they had their own

booth, but I just don't see it.

But I bet they could do it.

They could have done it in

secret and no one could have.

Yeah.

I think it would have been leaked.

I think, well, they could always, uh,

Lenovo comes out and

then they just like still

the show at Lenovo's booth.

That'd be fun.

One kind of do the Lenovo comes out and

then, and then like the walls fall

backwards and then valves

logo rises from the floor.

And it's like, this is

actually the valve booth to be fair.

That'd be such good.

Lenovo,

valve eyes.

Lenovo.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

See, that's the type of

stuff I want nowadays.

I, we need stuff like that to

make things more interesting.

Companies actually just having fun again.

Well, that's like what valve did with

their game development

for a long stretch of time.

Like they acquired mod developers and

they acquired like, I mean, you, you

mentioned an Arbacular drop, which was

like portals, original thing.

That's right.

Yeah.

Uh, like the tech demo, they valve went

to that college and saw the tech demo and

they were like, want a job and gave all

of their team that

made an Arbacular drop.

And it's like, dude, that's

how valve used to operate.

They actually, they

still do operate like that.

They just don't do it as much or we don't

hear about it as much too.

You know, they brought Campo Santo and

that was, they also hired the guys that

made Risk of Rain, um, Hopu or whatever.

Right.

Yep.

Uh, Firewatch or

whatever that one's called.

Campo Santo.

Yeah.

And I believe they made Half Life Alex.

Do they not?

They did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

So they could buy Lenovo.

That'd be cool.

That would honestly.

Vow branded laptop ThinkPads.

Oh my God.

That's right.

They bought, they have,

oh gosh, I don't know.

They have, I think they know, I think

they would also own IBM too.

Cause, uh, don't they,

doesn't Lenovo own IBM now?

They own the ThinkPad series.

So IBM, I think, uh, Jettison, some of

their IP, uh, some of their branding.

Yeah.

Lenovo bought it up.

What does, what does

IBM even do these days?

Just like super

computers with AI in them?

Yes.

They make a, they

build Jeopardy contestants.

God business.

Damn it.

Oh my gosh.

That's funny.

So, uh, can we, can we do it?

Can we finally get into this?

Can we, yes.

Half Life is hashtag valve

hashtag half life hashtag G man.

Hashtag 20, 25.

Our good friend, the voice actor for the

G man, Mike Shapiro or

Shapiro, actually, um, uh,

posted a mysterious video.

It's a 30 second video.

I was talking about a new year and I

don't know what the background is, but he

hasn't posted

anything in like five years.

Yeah.

And the half, it's a painting.

Yeah.

We don't know what's going on though.

And basically, well, there's a painting

and then there's a rumors of, I think

the orange in it is a color that is how,

like it's some, we go to conspiracy

theories, man, they confirmed half life

three through the color palette on it.

You know, people they'll, they'll find

fun stuff, but so I posted a video about

this and I mentioned that I didn't know

what that, that painting was.

Do you know what the painting is?

I've read about it multiple times and I

still don't fully

like remember what it is.

So Mike Shapiro is

actually a musician as well.

And so the painting in this video is the

album art of his most recent album.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

Oh, which doesn't seem valve related, but

the fact that he's using, he's draw, he

starts off sounding kind of like Barney

and then he kind of goes into being the

G man and boy, I want to

know your take on this James.

Cause I'm this got me so excited.

My, my Spidey sense was tingling.

As always, uh, I, you were, you even had

more like copium than me, like, like

during the game awards.

Yeah.

For me, I think half life, I think a half

life games come in this year, whether or

not it's half life three, or if it's like

a half life game to support maybe the

decker or maybe some other project that

they're releasing, because they they'll

do that obviously

wake with the steam deck.

They did a portal ask game.

They could be doing that too with this

once again, I don't care.

And if he's getting involved, G man's

coming back means we're probably going to

be getting, you know, a full, some type

of full fledged half

life game, whether it's

announced this year or comes out this

year, I would be

shocked if it didn't come out

this year though, um, with how valve has

been doing things lately.

So my hope is like, my, my, my extreme

hope is that this is halfway three

confirmed I've said this multiple times

over the years though.

So it seems so like dead to me to say it,

but I can't have my three confirmed, but

they could also do half

life for do some other.

All I know is we're going to be getting

another iteration in the series.

That's what I'm hoping for.

I really do think this, and I think we

have a lot of leaks because there's

another leak.

I don't know if you guys saw it.

No, we didn't.

I didn't.

Is it Gabe, Gabe follower mentioned that

half life, a half life game is in play

test with friends and family.

It's an active play

testing is what they call it.

The last stage of

development for a valve game.

But this, when, when a half life, Alex

went into active play testing, they ended

up scrapping the entire story and

rewriting it, um, using the, all of the

levels and assets they

had, that they had built.

And it took them another year and a half

from active play test to final release.

So I am very, I, I, I would be James.

I want this to be a thing

and I want it to be this year.

If it is this year, it's

going to be like late, I think.

And I don't think we're going to hear

anything official until summer.

At least that's, that's where

my head's at on this summer.

Could be doubt it.

I don't valve announces

games now with a tweet.

They don't, they like,

they'll, they'll release a trailer.

They'll just drop a trailer.

They don't do like the

events like half life.

Alex, I mean, I think

when, uh, what was it?

What's the, the, the card game, the DOTA

card game when that, uh, was released

on stage and the reaction was so

overwhelmingly negative

valve kind of swore that off.

Yeah.

Okay.

But to be fair though, that

was a, no one wanted a card game.

If it was half life three, I think that

people would have

erupted in, uh, tears of joy.

Yeah.

I think that's part of the problem was

that they came out with something that

everyone wants more

portal, more half life.

They'll even take more left for dead.

Um, and new, and new IPs are fine too.

But even for me, like Dota, every time I

hear valve mentioned

Dota, I get disappointed.

I am not a Dota fan.

Uh, Dota two, like the original Dota was

fun on with Warcraft

three, but I actually

preferred League of Legends split off on

all that and Dota just

isn't like Dota two is

not really, I don't really care for it.

Dota does nothing for me either.

Yeah.

So whenever time they, they mentioned

stuff like that, I

get super disappointed.

I understand, but I'm just

like, this is not my jam.

I want something else.

You can't bad mouth Gabe's baby.

That's his most played game.

Yeah.

That can be the most he's going to, uh,

he's going to, uh, he's

going to curse your, you

and your household

and your steam account.

Well, I mean, I'm not

saying it's a bad game.

I don't care for it.

And I'm glad that like people love it

because the people do love it.

Um, I just, it's like, I got too much

into League of Legends

and that's kind of like,

if I play those types of

games, it's League of Legends.

Um, but yeah, I don't know.

Like it gets, it's still disappointing.

And I, I know that like Gabe likes the

other, uh, IPs, but

the problem lies with, I

know the lot of them are worried that

like Dota does well and it has a good

reputation for them, but it's not like

half-life status

reputation is not the same

thing, right?

Half-life and portal have just like the,

and especially half-life Alex somehow

raised the bar even again, like, which is

the title of the

book, you know, raise the

bar, like it's rate.

Like they raised the bar every time they

released a new single player game.

And that's can be very daunting.

And I couldn't imagine how many

anti-anxiety like meds

they have to be taking

to make a game like half-life three.

So I have two questions.

Number one, do you really think that it

will be, uh, if half-life three releases,

it'll be a VR game?

Like if it's like for Deckard, do you

think that would be a thing?

Yeah.

Sorry, go for high tech.

I think it could be VR optional.

Like you can play the game in VR.

Uh, I don't know.

I, I honestly, we don't know.

Like half-life Alex

could be its own series.

That's just VR related.

So half-life Alex two could be coming out

that has a specific to VR.

I could see them go on that route and

then sticking with half-life being maybe

a handheld first.

Honestly, I could see it being, um,

flagships with like, with their, um,

hardware, so it's going to be designed to

work with maybe the steam deck or the

steam controller to

really well and the steam deck.

That's one thing I could probably, I bet

all my money on is that half-life will

work really well on some

type of valve hardware.

Yeah.

And that's probably

what they're targeting.

And there's some cool physics things that

they could probably be doing too with the

gyro.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're also

requiring that with their handheld, like

with the controllers, third party

controllers and stuff like that.

I could see them playing off that

because, um, strong

rumors are that they have

some pretty advanced physics

that they've been working on.

And I we've, we've heard of swarming and

stuff like that in half-life threes

previous before half-life Alex.

They never used any of that swarming, but

they're swarming tech that you can look

at, um, a great channel to

follow is, uh, Tyler McVicker.

He does a ton of deep

diving into code and all that.

Um, and there was a swarming mechanic at

one point, which sounds like it was very

physics heavy and I don't know why they

didn't continue that.

There must've been some type of

limitation and I have a

feeling that they might've

overcome that by now.

Yeah.

The other question is, do you think we'll

see half-life three before we see an

official deadlock release?

No.

Yeah, I don't know if half-life or I

don't know if deadlock will officially

release in a official manner.

I think it's going to

probably be a slow rollout.

Okay.

Um, but I don't know.

I could be wrong.

Like it is definitely very like early

days of deadlock, even though it plays

really well, like they're, they, like a

couple of months ago, they didn't even

have assets, like true assets for some of

their icons and stuff like that.

I don't, I have a feeling it's two

different teams and then I don't know.

Deadlock is probably

going to be one of those.

It could take years before they feel

comfortable releasing it.

Hmm.

Okay.

So that's my take on it.

I don't know.

Oh, they can, they can

release it as like an internal beta.

They, that is an option.

Internal beta.

What keep an early access forever.

Of deadlock for deadlock.

For deadlock.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Is it not open, but,

uh, is it not open yet?

Is it not public still

invite only, but I think of this.

Oh, is it?

Yeah, I believe so.

Yes.

At this point, I think

you could find someone.

It's really sad if you

couldn't find someone.

That means you need to maybe find some

more friends, but yeah.

Yeah.

I, I honestly, I want to see what their

algorithms, I want to

see the data on that.

I want to see how it's

like the bacon thing, right?

How many, uh, levels are you

separated from a Kevin bacon?

I want to know how many levels I am

separated from Gabe Newell.

Like he, I want to know if he was the

main invite, he invited his employees.

And then Dave, in fact, I want to know

how far away I am from him.

That's what I want.

That would be a cool one.

That's data that I

guarantee you they have.

Like they can pull that data for sure.

So now, yeah, here's a

fun little hypothetical.

If valve asked any one of you guys, if

valve said that they

were having a special

event for a new hardware next week, and

they asked you, and they said that they

would fund you flying out to their

headquarters and like hotels and like.

Whatnot.

Would you drop everything

this, this next week to do it?

Absolutely.

I hear, okay.

Here's the thing.

Of course, of course, even if they didn't

invite me, I would probably drop

everything and find a way to get there

and pay for it myself

and figure something out.

Yeah.

You can, you can, uh, you can see us.

If this is CS, if it's Washington, I feel

like, like CS says, I can at least get in

there and at least talk to

people that witnessed it.

If they, if it's close behind closed

doors, but I can

still be at the CS event.

Washington, that's going to be, that's,

that's a whole other

security issue thing.

So, uh, I have a

secret I kept from you guys.

I got invited to CS on like a most

expenses paid thing

and I was going to go,

but then I got sick and I didn't know

when I was going to recover.

So I decided not to go.

Hey, dude, I really wanted to go too.

I was so excited and then, and then I

went to Christmas and

freaking got sick with

COVID.

I was like, God damn.

Can you disclose who

like, no, no, I can't.

Can you be like, Oh, I'm better now.

Can I go now?

I sent an email.

I will see if I can actually go, but I

don't, I think it's too awesome.

If God, I had to pay for my hotel and

because I didn't buy the hotel.

Cause I got sick.

Like when I was going to buy it, the

prices are a lot higher now.

So I don't know if I'll

be able to do it anyway.

They're a lot higher, but if you don't

mind walking, you can

get or, uh, take an Uber.

You can just stay further away and just,

I wouldn't do Airbnb.

I do, I do, uh, 20

minutes away from the event.